Which is best: IMS by LN or a DOF? or cheapest?
#47
The hose is a non-issue and utter nonsense to worry about. IF by some chance you ran over something substantial enough to rip it off - AND it caught it just the right way despite it being shielded by the rear sway bar - YOU WOULD FEEL IT! It isn't some little vacuum line dangling off the bottom of your car. Its a stainless steel braided hose with metal fittings, tightly fastened to metal couplers - and tucked up BETWEEN the rear sway bar and the engine casing. It could probably support your bodyweight and not break loose. Now imagine that being ripped off the bottom of your car - it would feel and sound like hell.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
Last edited by charlieaf92; 07-27-2017 at 04:24 PM.
#48
So in lamens term, cold start in the morning, let it idle for few minutes then take off? I've read from a reputable source that initial warm up does not need to be long, as long as the engine gets soaked with oil then you're good to go. This is how I've been driving my Mercedes on short and long cycle drives. Now would the weather affect my method of driving? I live in TX BTW. Regarding the IMSB, if mine has not been installed, I will surely have it done. Which bearings will I go with? I haven't decided yet and will continue to do more research. Any valuable information I find and personal experience I've encountered, I will pass it on in this great community.
#49
"Soaked" is an unusual term, but: as long as there is oil in the car, and the car shows oil pressure after it's started, you can drive it. If there were specific requirements, they would be in the manual. Start the car, check the gauges, check your mirrors, motor away. Don't go whanging off the rev limiter until temps are up.
Lots of stuff - coolant, oil, oxygen sensors, catalytic converters - on modern cars all works better when it's up to temp; if you're going to burn the gasoline anyway, you might as well be driving somewhere while you do it.
Weather would affect your routine if you live in a place where the car needs to be heated sufficiently before starting to prevent any other issues. The parts of East Texas I've lived in were cold enough to get snow in winter, but not so cold that I would have installed a block heater or I'd be freaking out about bore scoring.
Lots of stuff - coolant, oil, oxygen sensors, catalytic converters - on modern cars all works better when it's up to temp; if you're going to burn the gasoline anyway, you might as well be driving somewhere while you do it.
Weather would affect your routine if you live in a place where the car needs to be heated sufficiently before starting to prevent any other issues. The parts of East Texas I've lived in were cold enough to get snow in winter, but not so cold that I would have installed a block heater or I'd be freaking out about bore scoring.
#50
So in lamens term, cold start in the morning, let it idle for few minutes then take off? I've read from a reputable source that initial warm up does not need to be long, as long as the engine gets soaked with oil then you're good to go. This is how I've been driving my Mercedes on short and long cycle drives. Now would the weather affect my method of driving? I live in TX BTW. Regarding the IMSB, if mine has not been installed, I will surely have it done. Which bearings will I go with? I haven't decided yet and will continue to do more research. Any valuable information I find and personal experience I've encountered, I will pass it on in this great community.
#53
I'm in Irving and know about Mayo Performance. I spoke with the owner there a few weeks ago and he will be doing my PPI. Had a long talk with him and seems like a nice guy who knows his Porsche. He quoted me 2700 to replace the IMSB (ceramic) which also includes the AOS, RMS and water pump. He said these last 3 items are a must do when I get this done. What I like about this place is they are strictly Porsche and nothing else.
#54
I'm in Irving and know about Mayo Performance. I spoke with the owner there a few weeks ago and he will be doing my PPI. Had a long talk with him and seems like a nice guy who knows his Porsche. He quoted me 2700 to replace the IMSB (ceramic) which also includes the AOS, RMS and water pump. He said these last 3 items are a must do when I get this done. What I like about this place is they are strictly Porsche and nothing else.
#55
The hose is a non-issue and utter nonsense to worry about. IF by some chance you ran over something substantial enough to rip it off - AND it caught it just the right way despite it being shielded by the rear sway bar - YOU WOULD FEEL IT! It isn't some little vacuum line dangling off the bottom of your car. Its a stainless steel braided hose with metal fittings, tightly fastened to metal couplers - and tucked up BETWEEN the rear sway bar and the engine casing. It could probably support your bodyweight and not break loose. Now imagine that being ripped off the bottom of your car - it would feel and sound like hell.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
See how the IMSS steel braided line is hiding behind the rear subframe support, rear sway bar, and a metal coolant pipe?
#56
Im jealous - your engine is immaculate.
#57
Wow I forgot about the coolant pipe! If that ripped off your engine would be ruined much faster than if the solutions oil feed came off. Plus the coolant pipe is lower and less protected! I'm assuming it has never happened or I'm sure it would be the subject of endless debate.
Im jealous - your engine is immaculate.
Im jealous - your engine is immaculate.
#58
The hose is a non-issue and utter nonsense to worry about. IF by some chance you ran over something substantial enough to rip it off - AND it caught it just the right way despite it being shielded by the rear sway bar - YOU WOULD FEEL IT! It isn't some little vacuum line dangling off the bottom of your car. Its a stainless steel braided hose with metal fittings, tightly fastened to metal couplers - and tucked up BETWEEN the rear sway bar and the engine casing. It could probably support your bodyweight and not break loose. Now imagine that being ripped off the bottom of your car - it would feel and sound like hell.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
In fact - I just looked at it and I don't think there is any possible way for it to be snagged or ripped off. Its virtually impossible. In order to get torn off you'd lose your rear sway bar, probably the front part of your engine case and the rear cross-member piece too. Meaning your car is probably rolling down the side of a cliff, or you've managed to run over a boulder.
Now lets say you're super oblivious and didn't notice that. It doesn't matter. The product has been tested with no oil supply and its fine. You're going to begin spray oil out immediately and will probably notice it the first time you park. But, even if you're a complete dolt and don't notice your shoes being covered in oil as you get into your car the next time - your car has a built in oil pressure gauge and oil pressure failure alarm.
Its fun to speculate endlessly about how something could fail, but in this case its just a waste of time. There are way too many systems in place, not to mention thousands of man hours of R&D and testing. It may feel unnatural for 996 owners, but its time to stop constantly worrying and just drive and enjoy your car.
That makes sense to anyone that has any sense.
#59
So in lamens term, cold start in the morning, let it idle for few minutes then take off? I've read from a reputable source that initial warm up does not need to be long, as long as the engine gets soaked with oil then you're good to go. This is how I've been driving my Mercedes on short and long cycle drives. Now would the weather affect my method of driving? I live in TX BTW. .
OK, end of rant...
Volkert
#60
Sorry to maybe rant, but what is this obsession about warming up an engine before you go??? Living in TX of all places. I always learned the best way to warm up is to drive your car, but keep the revs in check until the car is really warmed up. I drive it upto 2500-3000rpm. This way you not only warm up your engine but also your drive train.
OK, end of rant...
Volkert
OK, end of rant...
Volkert