White/cashmere TT on eBay
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This came up on eBay today and the description is claiming the interior is all factory. It looks like a nice car but ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120931058183
Isn't that center armrest an aftermarket item by a company called 'Bird'? Seller is claiming that's a factory option. I have a factory carbon/aluminum package as delivered in my car and I have to say this stuff looks very different in quality and application. Most of it looks aftermarket to me but correct me if I'm wrong ... For example, the center console pieces around the switch plates should be completely covered in Carbon and I don't think the factory ever offered carbon air vent covers or seat control covers .. the only items that look like factory parts in the car are the shifter and ebrake and they don't appear on the option sticker either .. Seller is claiming that this was a 'special' car made up by Porsche North America for the 1997 New York Auto Show .. what do you guy's think?
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![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTcenterdashpanel.jpg)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120931058183
Isn't that center armrest an aftermarket item by a company called 'Bird'? Seller is claiming that's a factory option. I have a factory carbon/aluminum package as delivered in my car and I have to say this stuff looks very different in quality and application. Most of it looks aftermarket to me but correct me if I'm wrong ... For example, the center console pieces around the switch plates should be completely covered in Carbon and I don't think the factory ever offered carbon air vent covers or seat control covers .. the only items that look like factory parts in the car are the shifter and ebrake and they don't appear on the option sticker either .. Seller is claiming that this was a 'special' car made up by Porsche North America for the 1997 New York Auto Show .. what do you guy's think?
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTleftside.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTToptionsticker.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTbirdarmrest.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTcenterdashpanel.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTconsoleswitchplates.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTventandradioCarbon.jpg)
![](http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/jonp356/WhiteTTshifterandebrake.jpg)
Last edited by JPP; 06-13-2012 at 11:47 AM.
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^^^ Yeah .. I didn't even get into the price issue ..
I sent the seller some neutral questions about what was factory and what was aftermarket compared to the Option Sticker list .. and he responded with an extremely abusive email littered with misspelled words and almost unreadable sentence structure .. and he's the owner of the dealership there in Scottsdale mind you .. so I guess it's a 'sensitive' subject for him ;-)
I sent the seller some neutral questions about what was factory and what was aftermarket compared to the Option Sticker list .. and he responded with an extremely abusive email littered with misspelled words and almost unreadable sentence structure .. and he's the owner of the dealership there in Scottsdale mind you .. so I guess it's a 'sensitive' subject for him ;-)
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My favorite one-of-a-kind "all original" special wishes car is this 964:
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I enquired about this car previously... when it was priced at 99K. They marketed it for a month, and then bumped the price to $105K! Their explanation? Supply and demand. That was nearly a month ago and it hasn't sold. I agree, this dealership is manned by a bunch of unprofessional jokers. The carbon is clearly a fake look overlay. There are nicer, lower mileage examples for sale for $10K less than what these idiots are asking. My guess is it sells in the high 70s in the fall.
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I enquired about this car previously... when it was priced at 99K. They marketed it for a month, and then bumped the price to $105K! Their explanation? Supply and demand. That was nearly a month ago and it hasn't sold. I agree, this dealership is manned by a bunch of unprofessional jokers.
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If you just look at the list of options it was delivered with it's a bare bones car with drivers side lumbar adjustment .. that's it. It doesn't even have a disc changer in the trunk .. 1500 miles away from the 20K mile mark, I'd say this is an $80K car .. JMHO .. and then you're gonna have to remove all that crap in the interior ..
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^^^ I think they're a middle broker that makes their living selling other peoples cars that are for sale elsewhere .. so if this car's on consignment, and you bought it through NYCPC then they would be taking a cut of the overpriced pie as well .. it's quite a pyramid system at that point.
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Interesting, but keep in mind the market has shot up significantly in the last two years on these cars. Like I said 80k max, prolly hi 70s is more like it given that the interior nullifies the low miles.
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That's when I said I didn't think any of the carbon on the dash and console were factory parts .. and that's when he REALLY got abusive ..
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^^^ oh ... and what are those idiot lights or whatever that somebody has drilled into the center 'dummy' switch on the center console control cluster? Factory optional 'I can't drill in a straight line idiot lights'?
I think we can add a new dummy switch and restore wiring to the pile of repairs .. and probably find the aftermarket alarm system or whatever that's hooked up to it and remove it as well ... ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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