600RR

WTB a 993 Turbo S (who wouldn't?). I need some input. There are several available at what seems steepish prices, but what do I know. Maybe the prices have jumped a bunch in the last several years, from what seemed like $100-$120 range.

http://sloancars.com/1972/1997-993-t...0-22121-miles/

http://rpmsportscars.com/door1.htm

I'd actually like to find a mid-mileage one if such exists, and drive it.

Any personal experiences/thoughts/ideas would be appreciated. For example, WTF would someone want to buy and drive an "S" when a tt can be had for a lot less $$$.

speedfreak81

They are a LOT of money, as you have noted in your searching. Honestly.....if it's going to be a driver's car, why not just get a regular TT? You're only out 24hp, and some cosmetic mods, and you'd probably save yourself between $50-100,000 depending on the car. You could build a pretty wicked TT with the money you would save. Just my $.02, take it for what you will.

993Godspeed

Wow, that is definitely a lot of money, but the Turbo S are extremely rare, hence reflected on the price tag. Best of luck.

bbs993tt

The entire worldwide production of these cars is so low that your selection is going to be very limited at best and most will be low mileage for being 15 years old. To me, there is not enough of a difference either performance wise or cosmetically to warrant the extra $. It's about exclusivity and if you buy one and drive it more than the 1,000/year average, you'll feel it when it's time to sell.

Personally, I'd buy a tt for a lot less and drive the heck out of it.

Mike W

+1

ronnie993tt

+1, unless you really have unlimited funds then buy the "S" and drive the heck out of it just because you can!

993TurboS

I've argued before in this forum that it might be less expense to own a TTS than a TT depending on how you use it. The primary reason is that the S premium has continued to increase vs the non S, even for a given number of miles, so that owning the S saves expected depreciation dollars, and with rates at essentially zero, the opportunity cost of trying up the extra 40k is about nothing.

Bergamasco

993 Turbo S - Sorry I disagree on each and every point you make - we'll just have to wait and see which one of us is right over time but the prices of mint condition low mileage TT cars has certainly increased over the last couple of years while those of the TurboS have slipped. I have seen several examples with about a $50k price difference which is less than what it was only two years ago.

993TurboS

Almost 6 years ago I paid about a $30k premium. It could be that the fair premium is now zero. I actually doubt that it is less than 30k, but I won't know until I sell it. If the premium turns out to be $0, I'll have to debate whether it was worth $500 a month to have owned a turbo S instead of a turbo.

600RR

993TurboS: The premium at Sloan Cars is in the range of $82,000. I think that $30,000 would be a "deal" today, but I know less than little. That's why I posted this thread.

Thanks, all, for the input.

A related question, is this "worth" the price Sloan is asking?
http://sloancars.com/1815/1997-993-t...A018184-miles/

compare to http://sloancars.com/1972/1997-993-t...0-22121-miles/

Hard to believe that the delta would even approach zero, much less narrow over time. My problem is that owners seem to be keeper-collectors, and I'm not interested in owning a garage queen.

993TurboS

I guess you never know the price until you trade, and even then, making direct comparisions is difficult because there are so few S cars changing hands and each is slightly better or worse for some reason.

I didn't really mean that the premium could be zero now, I just meant that even the biggest nay sayer probably would not argue for a zero premium, and if that worst case trun out, I will have paid something less than 500 a month to own the s over the non s if I dumped it now.

ronnie993tt

Good point. Might consider an S myself if I find a great deal because it will out appreciate/depreciate less for sure over time. I think the last 2 years has been a bit of an anomaly. Problem is I'd worry about using an S vs a regular Turbo from a damage risk/loss of value point of view.

AC/911's

I sold a 6k mile white 993tt for $85k & wish I had it back, it's worth about a $100k now. The non S's are bring a lot as well.

andrewlunka

Here is another turbo S that came up for sale yesterday on Craigslist. $150K way out of my price range. Sounds like the "S" adds 80K premium to the car.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...714603690.html

AC/911's

That was just bought on CL on east coast for $85k, I called on it the day it sold. There's post somewhere here on it .