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Old 08-26-2007, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jean
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I don't see the point of being aggressive here, it is not my fault if you did not use the tool properly, you fooled the runs, or if the tool is crap . If you like to debate your numbers or any other fine, if you insist in maintaining this tone in your posts, don't waste my time. Just do your run, send it for verification if you want, or don't, who cares.
My tone is result from your estimates: like "near to 7 seconds" and "520hp"..
Don't tell these estimates to other people here because they don't make sense and someone may even believe them, sorry.

So you don't believe my second run either? That 5.45 was in continous mode..
What do you comment for my comparison to your and TB's run?

Could you send me your run for an exchange?
And I also want to get TB's run if possible?
Old 08-26-2007, 04:32 AM
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I said 520-540BHP and that is what I see from your data.
I only received one run from you, don't know what you mean by your second run in 5.45.
Old 08-26-2007, 06:24 AM
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Jussi - please do some more runs in "continuous", don't be disheartened if the results aren't what you hope. Like Jean said this is not about whose is fastest, it is the RL Tech forum
BTW I have "lost" ~40hp recentley with my latest 4WD mods and my recent gearbox rebuild makes me soooo out of the big power game, it is too
painful $$$$ -send Jean some runs and lets discuss

Edit -I don't have much data with me at the moment but will email you one of my runs to keep you going
Old 08-26-2007, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jean
I said 520-540BHP and that is what I see from your data.
I only received one run from you, don't know what you mean by your second run in 5.45.
I did also another run and got 5.45.
TB sent me some test run already.. Could you also send your "best one" so that I can compare them myself. I send then my run to you..
Old 08-26-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jussi
I did also another run and got 5.45.
TB sent me some test run already.. Could you also send your "best one" so that I can compare them myself. I send then my run to you..
Hey Jussi, since we are doing a "quid pro quo" can you email me your 5.45s run
Old 08-26-2007, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
Hey Jussi, since we are doing a "quid pro quo" can you email me your 5.45s run
Yes, of course, it's on the air now
and thanks for your data.

I hope that Jean also gives me his best run with specs..

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Old 08-27-2007, 03:55 AM
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Jean: Waiting your 6.6 sec 60-130 run to verify and for "quid pro quo" if you want to play with open cards..
Please, tell also in what temperature and with what running weight that has been done.
I can then give you my 6.52 sec AX22 measured 60-130 run to disprove your incorrect estimates/statements and to rearrange your "60-130 high score list"
Old 08-27-2007, 05:11 AM
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Jussi

I think there is miscommunication somewhere. It is not about my runs or my car, I don't have anything to prove nor interested in doing so, my car has 423.5 BHP and does the 60-130mph in 10.76 seconds, and I am very happy with it as it is, so no, it will not happen under "conditions"

I don't have any interest either in adding you or not into the "list" it is not my list, I am helping out when needed. You are insisting in making this a challenge, I could not care less.

If you want to send your data, great, if not, even better, it will save me time.
Old 08-27-2007, 11:58 AM
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Can you calculate my horsepower readings from long G values and speeds with given gears?
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The runs Jussi sent me, a 100-200kph is very impressive at around 5.5s with strong Gs
Unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to verify it and Jussi seems to want to play playground school games and will not give me or Jean any more of his run files until Jean "gives up" HIS fastest run file and emails it to Jussi

My comment on Jussi's engine remains as before, very impressive to be able to control the heat produced by 1.3bar with stock intercooler during a run up to 200kph is something I did not think was possible (it seems also to 250kph but it seems that that will stay in Jussi's schoolboy short trouser pocket !)

For me I will be fascinated to see acceleration up to the big numbers 300+kph and as important AIT details as the engine loads up in the ~10s+ it will take in 6th gear to get up there - this is where the real action may start ? timing pull, pull, pull whoops -kaboom !!!!

Problem is I suspect (which seems to be what happens in all the miracle cases) that we won't get to see any information which puts this "cold fusion" engine in anything but a positive light - which is a shame since it does appear to have moved the game on somewhat, but until he has run his unit up to maximum speed there is no way to guess at what the "porsche style hp" is..... remember a stock 993tt with 430 Porsche horses will do 184mph in 1.6 miles -phelix
Old 08-27-2007, 02:07 PM
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Thanks Toby for good laughs

btw: AIT is IAT

Toby, as long as my car is not tuned by RS, it must be crap
That's ok to me but those results are true..
Old 08-27-2007, 02:13 PM
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Toby you have to get your FACT straight..

"remember a stock 993tt with 430 Porsche horses will do 184mph in 1.6 miles -phelix"

It should read....

remember a NEWLY REBUILT stock 993tt with 430 Porsche horses will do 184mph in 1.6 miles -phelix
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I think Toby is correct. Fact is that most stock 993tt are sub 430hp if not newly rebuilt.
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Stummel that's the "joke"

Felix spent $$$ to get his new engine..

Hence his results.
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Originally Posted by Jussi
Can you calculate my horsepower readings from long G values and speeds with given gears?
Jussi

When I gave you my opinion earlier based on your screwed up run, this is what you replied:
Originally Posted by Jussi
My tone is result from your estimates: like "near to 7 seconds" and "520hp"..
Don't tell these estimates to other people here because they don't make sense and someone may even believe them, sorry.
So if you don't like my opinion, just quit asking for it.

I can, and have calculated dozens of them, and am certain of my results, just as certain that your charted results to TB's numbers were wrong, by a margin.

Originally Posted by Jussi
So you don't believe my second run either? That 5.45 was in continous mode..
No I don't.

I have not seen the run, but I have been around long enough to know that a 4WD, almost stock weight 993TT, running at 1.3 Bar with stock intercooler, and a wonder MAF cannot post those numbers. There is no magic here.

At the end of the day, all the pieces together do not add up as you portray them, as simple as that.
Originally Posted by Kevin
Toby you have to get your FACT straight..
"remember a stock 993tt with 430 Porsche horses will do 184mph in 1.6 miles -phelix"
It should read....
remember a NEWLY REBUILT stock 993tt with 430 Porsche horses will do 184mph in 1.6 miles -phelix
My stock 993TT performed in high heat faster than 1995 magazine tested numbers when the cars first came out, and I had a misfire that is visible on the datalog. Many engines perform better with decent mileage on them, so in my opinion new is not necessarily a criteria for better performance.


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