Only1Buck

Anyone know the car?

993 Guy

That is one sharp example...

Tim Wasmer

Another fine example in the hands of a dealer. Damn they will make a ton on that.

daddyscar

drool drool droool. i want that car soooo bad. love that color.

C.J. Ichiban

that's a cool color that you don't see on 993's too often

IamSMC

Link

PierreTT

+1

Tim Wasmer

Why, with those miles, would it have needed a Clutch and Turbo rebuilds?

cgfen

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I saw it @ Cars & coffee show in Irvine Ca last weekend.
The featured marque was P-car. .

While the color was not to my taste, the body / paint / interior looked quite clean.

Yes it is in the hands of a dealer
but
Paul @ Auto Kennel is one of the few (if not only) dealers that i'd feel pretty good about paying the dealer / middleman price increase to.
IMO he is ethically log levels above the used car dealer stereotype .

give him a call.

no affiliation blah blah blah other than stopping in Auto Kennel occasionally to chat and check out the eye candy.

cheers

Craig

six gun

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Q

Interesting comment. - But more often than not - COMPLETELY WRONG.

Don't lose sight of the fact that dealers are subject to the same market forces as everyone else.
They usually have to pay a premium for a stunning car - to do the deal.
Owners are more than happy to drive down the road to trade a car with another dealer who will pay more for the trade-in...

Often a dealer will make less margin on a high priced "fine example",
because they are prepared to take the risk on a perfect car.

Food for thought....

kimo964

But more likely than not, they will charge more than a private party and probably make more regarless if the demands are high or low.
If they pay a premium for a trade-in, they are probably charging a premium for the sale of the new car too. They are in the business to make $$
I didn't know dealers fight over trade-in. Most people trade in their cars to the dealer that has one they want.
Disagree. If a dealer knows they have a fine example, they will sit on it and wait for a buyer.

I'm not a dealer and may be way off. I'm basing my statements on common preception.

BTW, the slate gray looks great...but I'm bias

DougM92

I think this is the car that was at Mission Viejo Land Rover about 7/8 months ago and it was real rough for the mileage.

Q

A few years ago, I would have agreed with you.
After being in the industry, I now know these perceptions are wrong.

In response to your comments:

1. You misunderstood the first point I made.
Dealers are subject to market forces.
- there is no "fixed price" for trade-ins.
they have to pay more for a decent car, or miss out on owning it.
there are other dealers willing to pay a bit more to have a decent car in stock.



2. Yes, dealers are there to make an income. Fact of life.
Perception says that the difference between trade in price, and advertised price is the profit. Fundamentally wrong. [this is a new thread in its own right]



3. wrong.
MOST people trade their cars at the dealer that give them the best price.
You may not, I certainly didn't, but MOST people do.....

The cars are often traded at a different dealership....or at a different Marque.
a different Marque dealership usually sells it to the wholesaler, who then rings a number of [porsche] dealerships to see who who will pay the most for the car
Thus, dealers end up in a bidding war...



4. You misread what I said.
I said dealers will buy a"fine example" on a reduced margin
....why ?
- they then have good stock on the floor
- good cars will ALWAYS sell
THEREFORE they have to sit and wait for their price....particularly when there is not a lot of room to negotiate.


I am not taking a bite at you here, I am just trying to give you an insight into the realities of the industry vs the perceptions

Cheers
Q

kimo964

Points well taken.