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Old 07-09-2007, 01:22 AM
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Hi Everyone!!
I am thinking about doing a up grade break system with my 993tt..any sugguestion?
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Welcome on board.

If you want meaningful suggestions you will need to specify what is the intended usage of your car, street or track? If it is track, is it for DE's, club sprint races, enduros, autocross, rallyes, Paris Dakar, Mille Miglia, Bonneville Flats, ...? How much are you willing to spend, what sort of engine you have, wheels and sizes?
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Use the "Search" feature in the tool bar.
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Search won't work for "breaks".

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Unless there is a discussion on Breaking Brakes....
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Originally Posted by 993 for life
Hi Everyone!!
I am thinking about doing a up grade break system with my 993tt..any sugguestion?
Hi:

If you are doing track events in your TT and running out of brakes, even with the proper race pads, I'd suggest the Brembo GT kit.

This is a package of 355x32 full-floating front and 355x28mm rear rotors with matching calipers (F-50 & RS) that works VERY well on these cars under such conditions.
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Originally Posted by Greg H.
Search won't work for "breaks".

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I am sorry for my typo, I meant "Brake system"
My 993tt is complete stock so, I have no idea where to start my up grades. I do have 30K to play with (don't know if it's enough)
I am not a full time track person, but I do track once or twice a year (just for fun) the reason that I am interested at the brake system is because i am thinking about do some engine up grade as-well, just thought that i should plan everything ahead.
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Save your money!!! Make sure you have good pads, fresh brake oil and a PROPER bleed job and you are set. Many of us race these cars and still run on stock disck brakes. I would focus on suspension and good tires and alignment rather, Steve@ Rennsport can provide you with some great guidance.
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Originally Posted by 993 for life
I am sorry for my typo, I meant "Brake system"
My 993tt is complete stock so, I have no idea where to start my up grades. I do have 30K to play with (don't know if it's enough)
I am not a full time track person, but I do track once or twice a year (just for fun) the reason that I am interested at the brake system is because i am thinking about do some engine up grade as-well, just thought that i should plan everything ahead.
Hi:

If your TT is stock and you are only going to do a few events per year, Jean's advice is spot-on,....

The stock TT brakes work VERY well with the proper pads and a brake fluid flush before each event. If you run on race tires and bump the HP to something beyond 480 HP, you MIGHT need more brakes.

I'd suggest spending some money on suspension, perhaps some supportive seats, and getting some seat time to learn how to drive the car. HP upgrades, while fun, do not translate directly into quicker lap times but they do make street driving more entertaining.
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Steve why not go full bore and do the 380 kit with 355s in the rear : ) What pads fit the brembo kits ? Does Pagid make anything ? Or do you need Brembo stuff ?
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Hi Andy:

The 380mm/355mm kit was designed for endurance racing where infrequent pad/rotor changes were the highest priority.

IMHO, I don't think most folks need those unless they are racing and thats a totally different game from DE & track days, much less street use. They are not cheap, either,...

Pagid makes a whole line of pads (RS 4-4, RS-14, RS-19, RS-29) to fit these (and other) calipers so thats not an issue at all.
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Steve,

How do the Brembos stack up with the StopTech option?
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The 380mm endurance brakes will most likely require a wheel change to allow for the thicker calipers and clearance of the wheel spokes. BBS made a special wheel center for the RSR and GT2 of that era.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
Hi Andy:

The 380mm/355mm kit was designed for endurance racing where infrequent pad/rotor changes were the highest priority.

IMHO, I don't think most folks need those unless they are racing and thats a totally different game from DE & track days, much less street use. They are not cheap, either,...

Pagid makes a whole line of pads (RS 4-4, RS-14, RS-19, RS-29) to fit these (and other) calipers so thats not an issue at all.
Thank God you bring sense to this board!

Bigger is not better! In fact, I would add to Steve's sensible comments that the biggest downside of going bigger for a street/track car is the fact that the 380mm will not get to the right temps with such usage. Typically top European teams in the late 90s used to run enduros (ca. 3-4 hour races) with 355mm and only longer races were run with the 380mm due to pad usage mainly, not better stopping distances.

A 6 piston 355mm upgrade is a nice thing to have though, despite it not being needed at all.


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