LA964RS

Looking to see if anyone has an idea on current market value for the Ruf CTR (yellow bird based on pre-90 Carrera platform)?

Haven't seen one for sale and know of one possibly coming on the market....

Any info would be apprecaited.

Thanks

tetzlafh

Your best bet is to contact Ruf Auto Centre in Dallas, TX or send an email to Ruf-Automobile in Germany. Ruf in Germany tracks just about all RUF VIN cars and sometimes they know when one of their cars is for sale.

harrY

Stummel

There have been two CTR on the german www.mobile.de that where around 100,000 € i.e. 120,000 USD. Both in very good condition and RUF VIN.
One CTR had a dark green exterior. Kind of Greenfrog instead of Yellowbird. Addictive cars...

There is a RUF VIN CTR2 for 200,000 € on mobile.de !

TB993tt

Sold my non VIN CTR for ~$67000 in 1999

LA964RS

Stummel....if you have a link that would be helpful. I went to mobile.de and put in porsche Ruf and got a few cars, but no early CTR.

Thanks,

Stummel

Sorry, I am no native speaker.
"There have been..." should mean that they are no longer for sale .
Ruf also has no CTRs on the website.

The VIN CTRs go fast and usually are not even advertised on the net.

Stummel

And then you immediately went to RS and put the 67k USD strait into the 993 twin it seems

Woodster

K24madness

Drool

Got to see the original yellow bird #1 at SCARGO. Pete from excellance magazine was doing a write up on the car. SCARGO was setting the suspension for better cornering. RUF has two different settings that they use for that car. One is for the top speed runs like the one that was done in another magazine a while back. I love that car. It has been driven hard. The way it is suppose to be. I was also supprised at the mileage. It was well over 100K. The underside exhaust work is poetry.

Cajun

I have always wondered....If you supplied the car, could they duplicate a yellowbird for you???

LA964RS

I've seen #1. Its a driver. Got all the stone chips to prove it. Not surprised at the mileage.

TB993tt

I posted this stuff before, but for newbies

I bought the CTR with the romantic idea of selling the 993tt (then fairly stock - boost controller, Protomotive software, hybrids, exhaust, FPR etc) and just running the CTR as a daily driver.
This was a non VIN car but was FULLY specified including carbon doors, hood, and wings - the first owner had spent a pretty penny and used it mainly on track days in France.
I had a file of bills which make the 993tt look like a cheap car to run

On the journey back from France which included some very nice 0-180mph runs, I realized that if I didn't do something about the exhaust my head would explode - big resonance, like I'd never heard before.

The enquiry to Ruf took a couple of weeks for a reply, the muffler (there's only one) would cost $13K US

I got a local garage to cut it up and refab it. It was much better but still lots of resonance.

Did I mention the smell of gas ? The CTR uses a prototype pressure sensing set up which Rheinhold developed, which chucks plenty of gas in. Unfortunately it smells like only 50% is burnt, the car stunk of fuel and getting an emmissions test was a nightmare involving winding various screws down until the thing barely ran

The car rode very harshly, one forgets how relatively crude the pre 964 set up was, and of course the RUF set up capable of 213mph had to be stiff.

Of course the thing was insanely fast, weighing 1226kg/2700lbs and having 520hp with the boost **** turned up to 1.2 bar, I once tried my G Tech on it for a quarter mile and I remember the trap was about 136mph, and the 0-60 was 3.4secs

All in all an iconic car, but no daily driver. Too harsh, noisy, smelly and bloody expensive with all those custom Ruf part numbered bits.

The $68K was put to much better use in the 993tt which is about as fast but is very much a modern car

GuyR

Good report TB.....

In answer to others, yes they will still make conversions to CTR-spec, but it's expensive and not worth it as converted cars are not worth so much money (the euro 100k is for RUF VIN cars only).

I have also driven a RUF VIN CTR (Adams) and whilst is very very fast and a true motoring icon, it's not a car I'd have as it is very basic, and somewhat dated now, especially in the brakes/chassis/tires dept. It's like a 964RS on mega-steroids!

The Green car was crashed and rebuilt by Roock.

Guy

LAT

FYI,
The CTR-2 is a great car to do anything around town and a great touring car. Nothing like a race car supspension at all. In fact if you don't push it there is not a lot of difference at a 80 mph cruise betwen the feel of my CTR-2 to my Cab other than the Cab has more wind noise even with the top up.
All that changes when you apply a little right foot pressure, kinda of the best of both worlds.
A touring car with race car ability.

LA964RS

Excellent stuff. I'm onto a BTR which I think is a much more civilized car. I'd like a CTR and am almost finished with my current version of one. Should be stinking fast...but no Ruf.

If anyone knows of any BTRs or CTRs for sale, I'd appreciate any heads up.

thanks,