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Old 06-12-2017, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kreeshp
They aren't making any more Ford Model T's either but you don't see those appreciating the way you see the 964 and 993 lines.

I'm not the first to raise this point but the air-cooled 911's are the cars that people in their 30's to 60's grew up wanting to own. Now that this cohort can afford their toys, this plays into the bubble.

The new generations - these Milllenials and younger - they don't have the same aspiration for automobile ownership that we had. They're more likely to be instagramming what they ate for lunch than have a poster of a 991R on their bedroom wall.
Exactly. Everyone who wanted a Model T when they were a teen and thought them really neat are dead. So they are no longer coveted.

One novelty I think the 993 plays strong to is the totally analog nature of it, including it's manual transmission. Altho it may have OBD, it's not a computer posing as a car as modern cars really are. That alone will make it collectible for a while.

One day, like the horse before it, I suspect non-automated cars will be outlawed on public roads, as they are just too dangerous for the average American to operate responsibly. Glad I'll be old or dead by then
Old 06-12-2017, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Disraeli
Not so sure about that. My daughter's made it pretty clear what possession she's most excited about inheriting upon my death.

I believe she's already researched which nail polish will go best with Pearl White.
You don't count because your daughter gets the car "gene" from you. Passion for cars gets passed from one generation to the next, didn't you know?

I'm talking about the average young person today whose parents don't own any enthusiast cars, aren't "into cars." Are they more or less likely than a young person 30 years ago to want to own an enthusiast car?
Old 06-12-2017, 11:54 PM
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I have 2 things to say here
1) SCREW the Bubble !
2) drive the car and enjoy it fellas !
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:11 AM
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^ This is my plan...
Old 06-13-2017, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dannycf
or do 993's for sale seem to be lingering on the market longer than in the recent past.
I'm especially noticing this on the premium low mileage examples and higher priced wide bodies.
Asking prices are still up there but is anyone buying?
Thoughts?
not your imagination
highest point of this most recent bubble peaked 14 - 16 months ago IMO
sellers still want prices that were asked then.

993s are great cars, prices may recover and sink and recover and sink........
it's that market force cycle thing.
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Originally Posted by catherine
the 964s were produced over a 6 yr time frame, unlike the 4 yr time frame of the 993s. So far fewer over a longer time period. But that's ok, we tell ourselves lots of stories to make us feel better.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:18 PM
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not your imagination
highest point of this most recent bubble peaked 14 - 16 months ago IMO
sellers still want prices that were asked then.
This is right on the money (ask me how I know)
Old 06-13-2017, 09:28 PM
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I started my 993 journey 10 years ago when low $30K's bought me an extremely nice 1995 C2 with 3X,XXX miles. I know that those days are gone for good but I still can't believe that a similar car today is $65-75K. I know I know I know this is the market, it's how things work, get used to it. But I too think that the market lost interest a year or two ago. Hopefully this will bring the cars back to enthusiastic owners again. The positive side of this is that a lot of money was invested into these cars deferred maintenance simply because they were "worth it" now. The same hasn't happened to the 928 market yet!


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Old 06-14-2017, 07:19 AM
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Also the "Why You Need an Air Cooled 911 Now" videos have died down a little bit.
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Originally Posted by Cactus
Also the "Why You Need an Air Cooled 911 Now" videos have died down a little bit.
Replaced by videos of skinny girls standing in their heads...
Old 06-14-2017, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JDHertz11
Replaced by videos of skinny girls standing in their heads...
And I'm not complaining about those so much...
Old 06-14-2017, 10:15 PM
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KISS. As interest rates rise, prices will drop.
Old 08-08-2017, 07:43 PM
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OK...so now the dollar is getting weaker and Europe and other countries can buy more or "less expensive" US goods....will we see the return of the German Buyer? Also, the market is shaking out a bit. Lower prices do not always mean well sorted cars. I think the better cars are being picked off and we will see a gradual strength coming in 8 - 12 months (unless of course we are trading nuks with the ^%$$ in North Korea)



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