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Old 06-29-2018, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 993pbug


First and immediate impression is that the miles are not even remotely accurate. However, I do give the dealer credit for posting as many underbody shots as they did. If compression across all cylinders are reasonably close together and strong, a leak down might not be necessary but ... I would go that far on this one if I was serious even if compression was acceptable. The brake fluid is a tad dark but has definately been flushed which is a sign that a PO did some basic maintenance. I’d budget for an engine out to do proper reseal and to give everything a good once over. The other benefit is that it’s an early production 718 car which means OBDI and no drive block!

I would be in the very very low $30s (maybe even an opening salvo in the $20s) knowing it will need $5k to $10k worth of service. What is the dealer asking? Are there any records with the car?

As as for the paint? I’d fix the rust around the glass, paint those spots flat black, and touch nothing else!! Drive it and enjoy the patina & personality that it brings to the car - that, IMHO, would be the best part of owning it!!
Thanks so much for the quick advice, the 1995 is a huge plus for cali smog..Dealer asking 40k, Dealer is trying to get service records as work was performed outside of Porsche,

In my head I guess I could live with 35, but what you say is true would love to take on the project for $32k area, if he's firm on 40, based on your reply I should pass and I agree with extra work needed.
Old 06-29-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by leg1t
Thanks so much for the quick advice, the 1995 is a huge plus for cali smog..Dealer asking 40k, Dealer is trying to get service records as work was performed outside of Porsche,

In my head I guess I could live with 35, but what you say is true would love to take on the project for $32k area, if he's firm on 40, based on your reply I should pass and I agree with extra work needed.
That car is rough man... I would save my pennies for another example... just my 2 cents... could be a real money pit!!
Old 06-29-2018, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by leg1t
Thanks so much for the quick advice, the 1995 is a huge plus for cali smog..Dealer asking 40k, Dealer is trying to get service records as work was performed outside of Porsche,

In my head I guess I could live with 35, but what you say is true would love to take on the project for $32k area, if he's firm on 40, based on your reply I should pass and I agree with extra work needed.
I would not go a single penny over $32k. As Gbos1 mentioned, these can become a money pit which would quickly put you into the $40s without touching the paint. There are plenty oh higher mile coupes out there in that range, even some nice, mid-miles cabs. IIRC, there is a ‘95 Guards/Black cab near St. Louis with 78k miles, also a 718 car, for $39,995.
Old 06-29-2018, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by joejenie
What do you think a fair # is for this one? Based on the reports here, it looks like it really will close around $110-120k. Does that seem about right?
I agree with that range, $110k to $120k. Remember, “asking” price is just that ...
Old 06-29-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by L39E
Was the price on the phantom Vesuvio the same as it was on the RL ad before it got deleted?

A friend of the Vesuvio owner posted in the Rennlister Facebook group yesterday. As suspected, he was swarmed with offers and decided to take the car off the market because he felt he priced it too low. Now he's starting with bids @ 60k. If you messaged interest, I'm sure you have already been informed.
Old 07-01-2018, 01:18 PM
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Hi I am new here and looking for a 993 C2 or C4 in factory condition. What do you guys think would be a fair price for this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-993...53.m1438.l2649

Thanks
Old 07-01-2018, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WI-Ing
Hi I am new here and looking for a 993 C2 or C4 in factory condition. What do you guys think would be a fair price for this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-993...53.m1438.l2649

Thanks
What does "factory condition" mean?

About a year ago I considered a very similar car--993 C4 in silver and red--but mileage was low 20s and price around $64k.

Investigate service and needs and the price might be just fine.
Old 07-01-2018, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HelpMeHelpU
What does "factory condition" mean?

About a year ago I considered a very similar car--993 C4 in silver and red--but mileage was low 20s and price around $64k.

Investigate service and needs and the price might be just fine.
Thanks! With "factory condition" I meant no aftermarket modifications etc.
Old 07-04-2018, 01:33 PM
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Curious: how much do you guys think original paint vs. partially repainted vs. complete repaint alters the value of a 993 (let's say C2/C2s for this question)?
Old 07-04-2018, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TractControlOff
Curious: how much do you guys think original paint vs. partially repainted vs. complete repaint alters the value of a 993 (let's say C2/C2s for this question)?
I think it depends on the individual and how badly someone wants the color. My C4S for example was a glass-out/high end paint job. This was due to a previous owner wanting to install the full aero and afraid of paint match issues (not due to an accident). He applied a clear bra as well. It could be argued the paint looks better than factory (no orange peel, etc). The dealer and myself had no idea the car was repainted. I only discovered this by cross checking the VIN here on RL. I spoke to the original owner to get these details. With this information at hand, the dealer knocked the price down about 10% from the originally negotiated price.
Old 07-04-2018, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 993 Sailor
as long as its no accident, it doesnt. I'll take brand new, properly done paint job any day over crappy 20 year old tired paint.

Absolutely. Im of the same mindset. I’d rather have a excellent condition repainted car properly protected with PPF that mediocre or poor condition original paint. These cars are getting to the age and mileage that many have had some paint work, rock chip repair or minor/parking lot scuffs scrapes, road rash, etc. This is entirely personal but I also believe that unlike some older 911’s 993’s do not look great with alot of patina and worn out, rock chipped paint. Ultimately, original paint is great if it looks right. On the repaint it really depends on the reasons for doing it, who did the work and the overall quality of the finished car.
Old 07-06-2018, 12:13 AM
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Having one of each, I’ll take the windows out top tier repainted one over the original paint one with minor flaws any day of the week. The automotive paint technology of 22 years ago can’t shine the shoes of modern day systems and blends. Regardless if it is/was factory. 993s do not look good at all with patina.
Old 07-07-2018, 08:20 AM
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https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/329637

’98 C2S, 6-speed
Dark Blue / grey
24k miles, $98k

Reasonable ask for a low miles 98 C2S if it checks out.

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Old 07-07-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by L39E
https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/329637

’98 C2S, 6-speed
Dark Blue / grey
24k miles, $98k

Reasonable ask for a low miles 98 C2S if it checks out.

Great price. I would be all over this if I was in the market.
Old 07-08-2018, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by L39E
https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/329637

’98 C2S, 6-speed
Dark Blue / grey
24k miles, $98k

Reasonable ask for a low miles 98 C2S if it checks out.

Unfortunately it's sold...and not to me. Boo hoo. It was as near perfect for what I've been searching as I've seen.


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