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Old 07-06-2020, 06:35 PM
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1996 C2 Manual coupe 70k miles. Car was purchased from Tim Holt 5 years ago. Midnight Blue with Gray. Runs and Drives fantastic lots of records?
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Anyone familiar with this car? Seems like a very low price even given the mileage. Must be some other story. 1996 Turbo for $89,000.

https://www.issimi.com/collections/u...993-twin-turbo
Old 07-08-2020, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mbriggs993
Anyone familiar with this car? Seems like a very low price even given the mileage. Must be some other story. 1996 Turbo for $89,000.

https://www.issimi.com/collections/u...993-twin-turbo
This is why......


So a good driver but serious money to restore to pristine as well as what that would do to the originality.
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Originally Posted by Trader220
1996 C2 Manual coupe 70k miles. Car was purchased from Tim Holt 5 years ago. Midnight Blue with Gray. Runs and Drives fantastic lots of records?
Thoughts?


It's unclear what's the question here....are you selling this car? Want to buy it?


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Originally Posted by gmorat
This is why......


So a good driver but serious money to restore to pristine as well as what that would do to the originality.
Thanks for the feedback. Even with that seems like a crazy low price for a Turbo. I looked at one with 90k miles on it a month ago that seemed much worse that what this one is described as and an out of state buyer purchased it for $98k sight unseen and it appeared there was a line of people interested.
Old 07-08-2020, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mbriggs993
Thanks for the feedback. Even with that seems like a crazy low price for a Turbo. I looked at one with 90k miles on it a month ago that seemed much worse that what this one is described as and an out of state buyer purchased it for $98k sight unseen and it appeared there was a line of people interested.
I got to think the fender to door panel gap issue means an accident history? Agree the price seems low for condition.

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I got to think the fender to door panel gap issue means an accident history? Agree the price seems low for condition.

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could be an accident or the doors were likely removed at some point for some reason maybe check strap repair or adjusted improperly
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Originally Posted by mbriggs993
Anyone familiar with this car? Seems like a very low price even given the mileage. Must be some other story. 1996 Turbo for $89,000.

https://www.issimi.com/collections/u...993-twin-turbo
Not an unrealistic scenario for an TT w/ 94k on odo asking for $89k, which means $85-86k should safely seal the deal. Spend $13-14k sorting it out, you've a TT driver at $100k all-in.

Old 07-08-2020, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mbriggs993
Anyone familiar with this car? Seems like a very low price even given the mileage. Must be some other story. 1996 Turbo for $89,000.

https://www.issimi.com/collections/u...993-twin-turbo
I'm not familiar with it. Check out the gap at the rear quarter where it meets the brake light/decklid. Looks pretty bad to be factory? If this car has been in a wreck (s) and it needs paint, you might be better off buying a lower mile example for even another 30k and come out ahead. (time and money)
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
I'm not familiar with it. Check out the gap at the rear quarter where it meets the brake light/decklid. Looks pretty bad to be factory? If this car has been in a wreck (s) and it needs paint, you might be better off buying a lower mile example for even another 30k and come out ahead. (time and money)
for sure....I’d be more concerned with that rear quarter panel/tail light area on the driver side. Its pretty jacked up.
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Where is my car in the C2S market? I have been considering selling. Of course the car has a value to me and a value in the market. I wonder if the market value is greater than my threshold.

The C2S market is very small and I do not see many actual sales numbers. It is my perception that within that small market there is further segmentation; collector cars (low miles, original), hot rods (typical mods, not too many miles, ... ?), and others (questionable color combinations or mods, dubious history, high miles, ... ?). I want to think my car is in the hot rod category but it may be in the 'others' category because I swapped the tiptronic for a manual and had it repainted for cosmetic reasons. My car has been well maintained with what I think are subtle upgrades, runs well, and looks good.

If my car is near the bottom of the C2S market what is that? I'm thinking low $70s.

1997 C2S Arena Red with Black Interior
96k Miles
Euro M030 Suspension
Adj Bilstein Shocks corner balanced, Euro -10mm
Porsche 993 turbo big red brakes
Euro S bumper air ducts/fogs clear side markers
Complete re-paint 2010
HID low beams
996 GT3 steering wheel with OEM leather airbag cover
996 Shift ****
Leather dash
Porsche 993 hardback sport seats
Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46 Head Unit
Alpine PDX-F4 amp
Focal ICU130 Speakers
Tip to Manual conversion
GT3 single mass flywheel/clutch
Wevo C2 semi-solid motor mounts/blue
Sound pad keeper
Airsound airbox
Single fan belt/ pulley
Porsche RS short shifter
FD Motorsport Goldenrod shift linkage



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Originally Posted by hoggel
Where is my car in the C2S market? I have been considering selling. Of course the car has a value to me and a value in the market. I wonder if the market value is greater than my threshold.

The C2S market is very small and I do not see many actual sales numbers. It is my perception that within that small market there is further segmentation; collector cars (low miles, original), hot rods (typical mods, not too many miles, ... ?), and others (questionable color combinations or mods, dubious history, high miles, ... ?). I want to think my car is in the hot rod category but it may be in the 'others' category because I swapped the tiptronic for a manual and had it repainted for cosmetic reasons. My car has been well maintained with what I think are subtle upgrades, runs well, and looks good.

If my car is near the bottom of the C2S market what is that? I'm thinking low $70s.

1997 C2S Arena Red with Black Interior
96k Miles
Euro M030 Suspension
Adj Bilstein Shocks corner balanced, Euro -10mm
Porsche 993 turbo big red brakes
Euro S bumper air ducts/fogs clear side markers
Complete re-paint 2010
HID low beams
996 GT3 steering wheel with OEM leather airbag cover
996 Shift ****
Leather dash
Porsche 993 hardback sport seats
Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46 Head Unit
Alpine PDX-F4 amp
Focal ICU130 Speakers
Tip to Manual conversion
GT3 single mass flywheel/clutch
Wevo C2 semi-solid motor mounts/blue
Sound pad keeper
Airsound airbox
Single fan belt/ pulley
Porsche RS short shifter
FD Motorsport Goldenrod shift linkage


First off, love what you did with the 993. I've been watching the c2s market for the last three months and there were two that was a little on the "beat-up" side (either high mileage or tracked) and they were asking mid-high 60s. I think one finally sold but high-60's was their starting ask. My guess the number for yours will be high 60s to low 70s.

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Old 07-09-2020, 04:31 PM
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@hoggel Best place to find out is BaT and if you don't like the reserve they offer, don't go forward. 993s have been doing well there the past few months, so it's a good place to see. I know of a C4S with about 122k miles with many of the same mods as yours sold in the mid $50s just a few weeks ago. It's going to take a special and knowledgeable buyer to "buy" the collection of mods and true modifications--repaint, Tip-to-MT conversion, non-stock wheels, etc.--you are selling. That's what makes it tough. Many people want all or mostly all original.

My guess, seeing how you have "made it yours," that your car is going to be worth more to you than to others.

Reach out to @Tarek307 and he might be able to guide you better.
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Any thoughts on this 96 Midnight Blue C2? Broadening my search a bit to include NBs, love the WB look but selection is somewhat limited and happy to go NB if it’s the “right” 993.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-44/

Thanks in advance for your expertise!

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Old 07-19-2020, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Calvin&Hobbes
Any thoughts on this 96 Midnight Blue C2? Broadening my search a bit to include NBs, love the WB look but selection is somewhat limited and happy to go NB if it’s the “right” 993.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-44/

Thanks in advance for your expertise!
You won't be disappointed going with a NB 993. I bought both to find out and sold the WB.
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