My 993 remote clutch bleed setup
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My 993 remote clutch bleed setup
I've owned my 993 for more than ten years and get a great deal of satisfaction doing all of the maintenance myself. At minimum, I do an oil change and a brake & clutch circuit flush every year (~3,000 mile annual use).
But there is one item that has consistently irritated me - the location of the clutch slave bleed screw. I absolutely loathe that diminutive fastener. Getting to it, keeping a 7mm wrench centered on the flats, and hoping the bleed hose stays in place are all less than enjoyable.
Ever since I saw a remote bleeder located in the LR wheelwell of a 993, I've wondered about relocating my own. In the case of that car, the clutch is a Tilton setup that utilizes an annular bearing (hydraulic release bearing vs. our slave-actuated setup).
So a few months ago I started thinking about this again and wondered where the best location for the bleed screw would be. My 993 has been on stands for a few weeks for the usual maintenance, so I took the opportunity to forge ahead. When looking at the car from the side (on stands, wheels off), it's clear that the slave cylinder is quite a bit higher than the inner arch of the wheelwell (body structure). So locating a bracket there made no sense as the bleed nipple should theoretically be the highest point in the system.
I realized that mounting the bleed nipple above the intake manifold (old skool, non-Varioram) would afford both the height I wanted, as well as easy access. I'll let the pics explain the modification, but in short I purchased an M6 to AN-3 adaptor to replace the bleed screw, a 36" length of AN-3 braided line (one end straight, one end 90 degrees), a bulkhead fitting, and a 3/8" x 24 bleed screw. I fabricated the bracket from a short section of 1-1/2" x 3/16" steel and mounted it to the four existing threaded inserts on the manifold.
Result: it works perfectly! The modification is completely reversible should I wish to ever put myself through the misery of bleeding from the stock location. Something tells me that won't happen.
For reference, I found the M6 to AN-3 adaptor on Ebay UK, while the line, bulkhead fitting and bleed screw came from Pegasus Racing.
Andreas
But there is one item that has consistently irritated me - the location of the clutch slave bleed screw. I absolutely loathe that diminutive fastener. Getting to it, keeping a 7mm wrench centered on the flats, and hoping the bleed hose stays in place are all less than enjoyable.
Ever since I saw a remote bleeder located in the LR wheelwell of a 993, I've wondered about relocating my own. In the case of that car, the clutch is a Tilton setup that utilizes an annular bearing (hydraulic release bearing vs. our slave-actuated setup).
So a few months ago I started thinking about this again and wondered where the best location for the bleed screw would be. My 993 has been on stands for a few weeks for the usual maintenance, so I took the opportunity to forge ahead. When looking at the car from the side (on stands, wheels off), it's clear that the slave cylinder is quite a bit higher than the inner arch of the wheelwell (body structure). So locating a bracket there made no sense as the bleed nipple should theoretically be the highest point in the system.
I realized that mounting the bleed nipple above the intake manifold (old skool, non-Varioram) would afford both the height I wanted, as well as easy access. I'll let the pics explain the modification, but in short I purchased an M6 to AN-3 adaptor to replace the bleed screw, a 36" length of AN-3 braided line (one end straight, one end 90 degrees), a bulkhead fitting, and a 3/8" x 24 bleed screw. I fabricated the bracket from a short section of 1-1/2" x 3/16" steel and mounted it to the four existing threaded inserts on the manifold.
Result: it works perfectly! The modification is completely reversible should I wish to ever put myself through the misery of bleeding from the stock location. Something tells me that won't happen.
For reference, I found the M6 to AN-3 adaptor on Ebay UK, while the line, bulkhead fitting and bleed screw came from Pegasus Racing.
Andreas
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M. Schneider (08-25-2020)
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Beautiful work! Simple elegant solution to a miserable job.
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Andreas,
Good work on the fabrication! My concern though is what might happen with
any mishaps with the bleed screw. Brake fluid coming down onto your engine
would make a real mess.
I've wanted a similar remote bleeder myself since I first bleed the clutch.
Another idea, which was tossed around in this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...placement.html
was to install an access panel in the rear seats location.
Doesn't appear that anyone has every done this that I could find.
It would allow access to the starter, the clutch slave and the bleed nipple.
I once owned a boxster and they have an access panel shown here:
I may be doing a starter replacement soon and through searching, I had
located the thread mentioned above.
A starter might be serviced once every 200K miles. A clutch slave might
be serviced two or three times in 200K miles. But that clutch bleed nipple
would need to be access more than a dozen times in 200k miles.
Depending on the size of the panel, other hard to get at items could be
serviced as well.
Just tossing out some thoughts since I see that you had thought about it
once before.
BTW, the engine looks really good!
-bruce7
Good work on the fabrication! My concern though is what might happen with
any mishaps with the bleed screw. Brake fluid coming down onto your engine
would make a real mess.
I've wanted a similar remote bleeder myself since I first bleed the clutch.
Another idea, which was tossed around in this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...placement.html
was to install an access panel in the rear seats location.
Doesn't appear that anyone has every done this that I could find.
It would allow access to the starter, the clutch slave and the bleed nipple.
I once owned a boxster and they have an access panel shown here:
I may be doing a starter replacement soon and through searching, I had
located the thread mentioned above.
A starter might be serviced once every 200K miles. A clutch slave might
be serviced two or three times in 200K miles. But that clutch bleed nipple
would need to be access more than a dozen times in 200k miles.
Depending on the size of the panel, other hard to get at items could be
serviced as well.
Just tossing out some thoughts since I see that you had thought about it
once before.
BTW, the engine looks really good!
-bruce7
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It is indeed a miserable job!
Thanks Vince.
Bruce,
Thanks. I spent a great deal of time thinking about the location and felt my reasoning was sound. The bleeder nipple is securely seated and the other items are robust enough that I have no concern about a disaster. I think.
Just tryin to keep things real man!
It's a driver at best.
Andreas
Thanks Vince.
Thanks. I spent a great deal of time thinking about the location and felt my reasoning was sound. The bleeder nipple is securely seated and the other items are robust enough that I have no concern about a disaster. I think.
Just tryin to keep things real man!
It's a driver at best.
Andreas