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Old 10-08-2003, 07:30 PM
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Unhappy Dealer wants my car...

Went by a dealer last weekend in Atlanta in my '96 C4S to check out the latest offerings. They had a new C4S and I drove it to compare...what a nice car!

Anyway, the sales manager was chatting with me and said he has people looking for 993's (especially "S" models) all the time. He showed me a nice 2001 996 with 20K miles on it and said he would trade me close to even for it. I thought he was kidding me but when I pressed him he assured me that he was serious. His first offer amounted to my car + $5k. He said that used 996's are moving slow but he could turn the 993 quickly.

The 996 looked like a nice car (silver/black) but with low options. It is under warranty, of course. I didn't even drive it (to avoid temptation) nor did I counter his offer.

However, after a few days thought I am starting to think about how nice a "newer"car would be. Any opinions?
Old 10-08-2003, 07:36 PM
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You are asking the wrong board about what they think in trading a 993 for a 996. If for no other reason, the fact that the dealer is willing to do almost an even trade, should tell you something.
Old 10-08-2003, 07:38 PM
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Bill You know we lost Fred C4S already! But he got 996 TT.
DOnt do it! if you feel the need upgrade within your own
species!
Old 10-08-2003, 07:43 PM
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i think the very least is that you should drive it .............
Old 10-08-2003, 08:17 PM
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996s are very nice cars but I wouldn't jump. Here's my insight. One of the most enduring and endearing features about the 911 is the sheer brilliance in style. It's timeless.

The 996 styling doesn't do it for me. The 996s is "forgettable" looking. Every 911 iteration, IMO, looks great if not better in non-kit form except the 996.

Look at the new UK publication evo magazine. They have some interesting shots of the 997 which is much more to my liking.

Just my $.02 worth...
Old 10-08-2003, 08:18 PM
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AH! At least you're looking at an 2001. 1999-2000 are the 3.4 liter motors which had some issues. 2001-current is a 3.6 motor.
Old 10-08-2003, 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by nota_troll
AH! At least you're looking at an 2001. 1999-2000 are the 3.4 liter motors which had some issues. 2001-current is a 3.6 motor.
No, 2002 was the first year for the 3.6 liter 315 BHP engine. And, the issues before that were taken care of under warranty.
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Originally posted by nota_troll
Look at the new UK publication evo magazine. They have some interesting shots of the 997 which is much more to my liking.
The 997 pics published so far are highly camouflaged. You can't judge by what you've seen until the final design is released. You'd be surprised as to how much the next car might look like the 996. It is said to be mostly an evolution of the present car. The model after that, might be completely different.
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You guys are right! It's not unusual to be tempted by a younger woman in gaudy make-up

Anyway, I had to ask myself the basic question:"Why would the dealer want my 7 year old car for an almost equal trade?" That in itself should tell me something about the value of the 993.

The voice of reason has returned...thanks for the moral support. I think I'll go out for a drive to reaffirm my committment!
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A quick look at the current market helped sway me as well. This should scare the 996 guys. Sounds similar to what the dealer was offering so maybe it wasn't such a great deal after all...

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Bill
the dealer is not going to do JACK $hit for you. You're
right they arent going to do anything without making a buck.
A straight trade aint gonna happen UNLESS your car is worth MORE!
I'm glad you VOR (Voice of Reason) came back in time.
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Originally posted by billh1963
This should scare the 996 guys.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think most of them are concerned about resale values.
Old 10-08-2003, 08:59 PM
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I don't know, Viken. For the guys who are leasing or for the guys who plan to keep their car forever that may be true. But for the average Joe making a car payment and wanting to trade up to a 997 in a couple of years it would concern me from a financial sense.

From my admittedly limited experience with 911's they have always held their value better than many cars. The really nice 993's are 6 or 7 years old and are still selling for over 60+% of their original MSRP (yours for example). The 2001 is selling at around 60% and it's only 2 to 3 years old. That would concern me from a future sales perspective (only because I worry about such things!)
Old 10-08-2003, 10:05 PM
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The market is flooded with lease returns right now. Having had both a 99 (3.4) and an 02 (3.6), buy a 3.6.
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Originally posted by Viken
No, 2002 was the first year for the 3.6 liter 315 BHP engine. And, the issues before that were taken care of under warranty.
Nope. 3.6 was introduced in the 2001 996.


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