[QUOTE=johnireland;11860513]Its also funny that the more I drive my 996 the less I become interested in selling or trading it. There is a Porsche tradition of it taking awhile for the owners of the older to accept the improvements of the newer.
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There is nothing wrong with enjoying your car.

There is also not a problem with people accepting anything. You came on here looking to see if someone wanted to trade. Nobody has stepped up.

When I was looking for something to go with my old '84, I looked at a few 996's while looking at 993's, and had a smile on my face when I test drove them, for sure. But, I just wasn't excited about owning one. Interior feel, exterior looks were deal breakers.

I'm pretty sure a 996 or later standard issue Carrera will never surpass an air-cooled variant in value, even taking into consideration "improvements".

 

Why can't we just all get along? After all they're both Porsches and both 911's for that matter. We should be embracing our cars not having discussions like these.

 

Nope.

And here's why:

When Porsche changed from making 356s to 911s, the change was evolutionary: still air cooled, still made in relatively small numbers from the same boutique automaker. Yes the shape changed, and cylinders were added, but still very similar in many respects.

Thing is, the leap from 993 to 996 and beyond was revolutionary. So big a leap, in fact, they are not the same car in almost any way.

Also, the 996/997/991 variants were/are made in huge production numbers. Of course they're also water cooled now, and we all know that a giant conglomerate, VW, makes Porsches now. Aside from the engine placement, Porsche is very similar to every other mass-produced car from any giant automaker that spits out hundreds of thousands of cars a year or more.

Aside from specialty editions, i.e. GT2, 4.0 997 GT3 etc., no 996 or 997 car will ever be collectible like the air-cooled models. There are just too many made. Porsche will suffer the same depreciation that every other automaker that makes so many cars does.

Too many cars to be highly collectible. Maybe in 50 years when most have been wrecked/destroyed. But not for a long, long time, if ever.

 

And Bingo again! Look at the steep depreciation rate already occurring on 991's. As many have mentioned these are not merely opinions of some forum members they are fact and proven in the marketplace everyday.

 

Must be a dull week on the rest of this forum………….

 

That's pretty much /thread, isn't it?

I checked Autotrader just now.

996 Coupe (only) = 441
Highest Price: $56,900
Lowest Price: $10,877
Average Price: $26,536

996 Coupe/Cabriolet/Targa = 955
Highest Price: $66,900
Lowest Price: $9,500
Average Price: $26,895

993 Coupe (only) = 72
Highest Price: $199,999
Lowest Price: $29,999
Average Price: $68,782

993 Coupe/Cabriolet/Targa = 131
Highest Price: $199,999
Lowest Price: $29,500
Average Price: $60,758

 

Turbo's should be broken out as separate category.

 

$199,999 is not the highest priced turbo. There is a low mileage C4S at that price though. Therefore I do believe turbos were not included in the numbers.

 

Correct, turbos were excluded. Here's Autotrader as of this morning with links to the searches and turbos split-out.

996 Coupe (only) = 442
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...es=COUPE&Log=0
Highest Price:$56,900
Lowest Price:$10,877
Average Price:$26,502

996 Coupe/Cabriolet/Targa = 957
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1999&Log=0
Highest Price:$66,900
Lowest Price:$9,500
Average Price:$26,856

996 Turbo = 219
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1999&Log=0
Highest Price:$79,995
Lowest Price:$28,900
Average Price:$47,204
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993 Coupe (only) = 66
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...es=COUPE&Log=0
Highest Price:$199,999
Lowest Price:$29,999
Average Price:$70,243

993 Coupe/Cabriolet/Targa = 131
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1995&Log=0
Highest Price:$199,999
Lowest Price:$29,500
Average Price:$60,758

993 Turbo = 13
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1995&Log=0
Highest Price:$249,995
Lowest Price:$124,900
Average Price:$174,014

 

Thank you for doing that for us. Much appreciated.

 

Thank you!

 

thanks Mongrelcat! The asking price data explains the demand trajectory pretty clearly. For roughly every 10 996's for sale... there is one 993 for sale and the asking price of the average 996 is roughly half the asking price of the average 993.

 

edited... duplicate post

 

You left off eBay and Craigslist and the Pennysaver. Do not seek work as a statistician...unless it is for the federal government.

 

That's what you have to respond with? Really?