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Old 03-15-2013, 08:22 PM
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Trying to decide whether to go with the ExtremeContact DW from Tirerack - the price is good even with airfreight to New Zealand. But I note they're not N-rated and am wondering if they'll have good stiff sidewalls compared to N-rated tyres?

The Michelin PS2s are half as much again as the DWs nearly, but I've had the Michelin PS2s on two different quattro Audis and I know they're very good tyres.

I'm replacing Hankooks which are not worn out yet, but I'm going to put them aside and maybe put them on another set of wheels sometime.

Any comments are welcome.
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I have had the Conti DW for three years now...no problems...good tread wear...quite...and handle nicely in the dry or wet.

Tire Rack rated them better than the PS2.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=140

Search the threads...everybody has a point of view but for me they are very good value.

As to the Porsche N rating which offers some additional testing by Porsche and in theory some differences in construction for the same tire model that is not n rated Conti DW is Z rated for speed...unless you are going to drive long distance on the Autobahn or track the car you will never approach the tires true limits.
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Originally Posted by il pirata
I have had the Conti DW for three years now...no problems...good tread wear...quite...and handle nicely in the dry or wet.

Tire Rack rated them better than the PS2.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=140

Search the threads...everybody has a point of view but for me they are very good value.

As to the Porsche N rating which offers some additional testing by Porsche and in theory some differences in construction for the same tire model that is not n rated Conti DW is Z rated for speed...unless you are going to drive long distance on the Autobahn or track the car you will never approach the tires true limits.
So you don't find the sidewall stiffness is any issue?

Before I bought the Hankooks I saw a lot of comments on here regarding the sidewalls and indeed this tuned out to be the case - so I wanted to avoid this issue with the next set of tyres I buy. The reason I bought the Hankooks is that was the only set of tyres I could buy locally that could match the set all around the car with the staggered F/R sizes. I guess NZ is too small to justify importing the oddball 993 sizes in the major "premium" brands.

But with importing from Tirerack I have a much better selection.
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So you don't find the sidewall stiffness is any issue?
Not at all. The car had Pirelli N rated before...for me anyway the Conti DW are as good...or better...in every aspect. And less money.
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I'm more than satisfied after 3k miles. run 34 front 39 rear on 18's.
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I run these on my winter wheels and like them. No issues with sidewalls. I probably have about 4k miles on this set and have no complaints.

I know others, including Steve W, have spoken well of them too.
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Originally Posted by il pirata
I have had the Conti DW for three years now...no problems...good tread wear...quite...and handle nicely in the dry or wet.
Tire Rack rated them better than the PS2.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=140
Search the threads...everybody has a point of view but for me they are very good value.

As to the Porsche N rating which offers some additional testing by Porsche and in theory some differences in construction for the same tire model that is not n rated Conti DW is Z rated for speed...unless you are going to drive long distance on the Autobahn or track the car you will never approach the tires true limits.
Here are the top ten from the Tire Rack survey ... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
Note that the PS2 is rated above the DW contrary to the previous post
Also the PS2 and EVO 12 outsell the other brands by a significant ratio
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I have the DWS and dislike them. The sidewall stiffness is a problem and makes for a wiggly rear end. My tire guy says the DW is better. But I will be returning to the Michelins.
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Originally Posted by stickypatch
Trying to decide whether to go with the ExtremeContact DW.
I seriously considered them last least year when I needed new tires. I ended up going with the proven Michelin PS2 in the end.
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Originally Posted by FlatSix911
Here are the top ten from the Tire Rack survey ... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
Note that the PS2 is rated above the DW contrary to the previous post
Also the PS2 and EVO 12 outsell the other brands by a significant ratio
I was referring to a test not a survey...

Testing Max Performance Summer Tires

Test ReportTest Result ChartsSpider ChartsTest Result Video
October 6, 2010

Tires tested:
Continental ExtremeContact DW (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 91W)

What We Liked: Excellent dry and wet traction and comfortable road manners
What We'd Improve: A small improvement in tread noise
Conclusion: A very well rounded Max Performance tire
Latest Test Rank: 1st
Previous Test Rank: 3rd (June '09)
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 94Y)

What We Liked: Excellent dry and wet traction
What We'd Improve: A reduction in tread pattern noise
Conclusion: Still a great category option
Latest Test Rank: 2nd
Previous Test Rank: 2nd (June '09), 1st (October '07)
Kumho Ecsta LE Sport (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 94Y)

What We Liked: Quiet road manners
What We'd Improve: Wet traction
Conclusion: A reasonably capable tire that trails the class leaders
Latest Test Rank: 4th
Previous Test Rank: Not previously tested
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 91Y)

What We Liked: Crisp handling on the road and around the track
What We'd Improve: Ride comfort and wet traction
Conclusion: A benchmark that is starting to show its age
Latest Test Rank: 3rd
Previous Test Rank: 1st (June '09), 2nd (October '07), 2nd (August '07), 1st (June '04)



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