Notices

993 Project continues - Going Wide

 
Old 02-26-2013, 02:07 PM
  #16  
Stuttgart951
User
 
Stuttgart951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Washington DC, SSR
Posts: 903
Default

Drool...
Stuttgart951 is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 02:30 PM
  #17  
LimeyBoy
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
LimeyBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 315
Default

Originally Posted by Juha G View Post
Should be a badass 993 once done!
It was already pretty badass, I like your posting, this is going to be good

Originally Posted by Washabi View Post
Can't wait to see the finished product. My 993 is undergoing surgery as we speak, from NB to RSR.
Your 993 is one of my favorites - you going to start a build thread?
LimeyBoy is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 02:45 PM
  #18  
Flying Finn
King of Cool
Rennlist Member

 
Flying Finn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Miami Beach, FL
Posts: 14,217
Default

Originally Posted by Washabi View Post
Can't wait to see the finished product. My 993 is undergoing surgery as we speak, from NB to RSR.
Well where the hell are those photos?! Or thread?!
Flying Finn is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 03:15 PM
  #19  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,887
Default

Originally Posted by Juha G View Post
.......
GT2 EVO tie rods I bought from another rennlister. I believe these are NLA from Porsche:

Great project and worth doing for a track car.

Those are RS outers, still available from any dealer but they do come attached to RS rubber inners.

The gem is the RSR/GT2 Evo inner which seems to be unobtainable these days
top 993 outer and inner, the outer is angled for use w/ the long 993 wheel carrier arm attached to rubber connection inner. bottom RS straight outer for use w/ the 993RS short arm wheel carrier attached to GT2 Evo mono-ball connection inner


full tie rods outer/inner sets
top normal, bottom RS, RS rubber connection is stiffer than normal but nut as dirrect as the GT2 Evo mono-ball inner
Bill Verburg is online now  
Old 02-26-2013, 03:25 PM
  #20  
jstyer
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
jstyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Temple, TX
Posts: 1,051
Default

Sorry about the OT: I know it's been posted many times before... But I can't seem to find it in a search. What is the part number for the RS outer only? I don't need the inner part of the tie rod, just the outer RS section.

Back to normally scheduled programming.
jstyer is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 03:35 PM
  #21  
Juha G
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Juha G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,515
Default

Bill, these are GT2 outer tie rods. They came from a fellow rennlister who had purchased a new set some time ago and only needed the inner pieces.
So my question is, are the GT2 and RS outers actually the same part? I was told the GT2 rods were longer!? So are inners longer then?
I currently have rs uprights and rs tie rods. So what is needed to push the hubs out that magical 28mm?
Juha G is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 05:07 PM
  #22  
V
Super User
 
V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,744
Default

Wow Juha, great project. It never stops, does it?

We need to catch up . It's been a while. The only thing missing in your build list is a set of BBS e88 race wheels for your new project. I have too many of these and need to make some room in the garage. I can probably make widths and offsets/color as you like. You seem to have already made up your mind about the wheels though . Maybe I'll shoot you an email later.

Great project regardless!

V is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 05:43 PM
  #23  
Mike J
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Mike J's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 8,162
Default

Very nice project Juha - it's like a tasteful Finn Rauh-Welt with real ***** underneath.



Post pictures of the conversion, it should lots of fun.

BTW, this must be more than a few $$$ -> you willing to give an idea of the overall budget?

Cheers,

Mike
Mike J is offline  
Old 02-26-2013, 05:55 PM
  #24  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,887
Default

Originally Posted by Juha G View Post
Bill, these are GT2 outer tie rods. They came from a fellow rennlister who had purchased a new set some time ago and only needed the inner pieces.
So my question is, are the GT2 and RS outers actually the same part? I was told the GT2 rods were longer!? So are inners longer then?
I currently have rs uprights and rs tie rods. So what is needed to push the hubs out that magical 28mm?
Glen or Bob or Matt would know better that me as I only have part #s for the wide bodies

As with the street cars the race car tie rods come as an outer/inner set, you buy 2, one for each side
These are the part #s I have it appears that the n/b Cup used the same parts as the w/b GT2 and RSR
GT2Evo/RSR/Cup mit mono-ball 993.347.031.80 or
993RS mit harder rubber 993.347.031.81
993street mit softer rubber 993.347.031.03

993.347.131.01 inner w/ rubber
993.347.131.02 GT2/RSR/Cup inner

To be sure measure the length of your outer, I have a couple of RS outer/inners that I can measure here.

7" from the outer end to the start of the thread, 14.75" from end to end when set up for a n/b car. I can get an end to end by taking it apart but i'm too lazy.
Bill Verburg is online now  
Old 02-26-2013, 06:27 PM
  #25  
bobt993
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
bobt993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philly Burbs
Posts: 3,051
Default

Originally Posted by Juha G View Post
Bill, these are GT2 outer tie rods. They came from a fellow rennlister who had purchased a new set some time ago and only needed the inner pieces.
So my question is, are the GT2 and RS outers actually the same part? I was told the GT2 rods were longer!? So are inners longer then?
I currently have rs uprights and rs tie rods. So what is needed to push the hubs out that magical 28mm?
Juha, The hub spacing measures actually measured more like 30mm when I checked on Glen's car and mine. Just measure the hole spacing inside the tub by the gas tank. I used ERP GT2 tie rods which had more than enough adjustment range. (this also allowed a variety of bump steer adjustment depending on your ride height with the supplied billet shims). Wheel barrels may also hit the end knuckle on the ERP tie rods (yes more maching needed). I think your units have more clearance. You will need to move the brake lines a bit also in and the vacuum booster must shift to the left along with the brake lever in the firewall. Glen had Dawe machine the top of his left side carrier (just above the where the tire rod travels through the wheel carrier. This allowed him to not move the vacuum booster as far left as I did. If you do not do this the brake pedal will go to the floor and never return. (the arm will bind on the suspension).

I helped Glen on his also and it was pretty much routine after mine was setup, but first time around you really need to figure out all the hurdles to jump over. I have had zero issues with this and the electric pump setup. Both Glen and I run our cars in sprint races (40mins or less) and on smooth tracks.
bobt993 is offline  
Old 02-27-2013, 02:00 AM
  #26  
Macca
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Macca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 14,140
Default

Juha. I loved your car just as it was quite honestly. I thought the polar silver and orange worked very well together. I just cant bring myself to change the factory sheet metal...having said all of that I believe your GT2 recreation will be simply stunning given your attention to detail. The color will look very good as well (my all time favorite on the 993 followed by Polar Silver then Midnight Blue)...
Macca is offline  
Old 02-27-2013, 11:36 AM
  #27  
Mr Swed
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Mr Swed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 77
Default

HYV─ Juha!! I,m still in the phase to copy your first RS replica. (do you still have your old bbs)
regards
Rob
Mr Swed is offline  
Old 02-27-2013, 11:59 AM
  #28  
il pirata
Moderator
Rennlist Member
 
il pirata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: colorado canyons
Posts: 3,281
Default

Originally Posted by jstyer View Post
Sorry about the OT: I know it's been posted many times before... But I can't seem to find it in a search. What is the part number for the RS outer only? I don't need the inner part of the tie rod, just the outer RS section.

Back to normally scheduled programming.
I understand that you cannot buy just the outer part...you have to buy the entire tie rod...part #993-347-031-81. If you get the tie rods you wheel also need the RS wheel carrier...part#993-341-157-81 & 993-341-158-81.
il pirata is offline  
Old 02-27-2013, 12:15 PM
  #29  
jstyer
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
jstyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Temple, TX
Posts: 1,051
Default

^^^^ yes, I already have the bearings and uprights on the way... And my understand was that you must buy the complete tie rod. I just wanted to make sure that Bill didn't have any super secret part numbers up his sleeve

Actually, now that I think about it, I know you can buy the inner part of the RS rod separately, just not the outer.

According to Andraya at Sunset, the GT2 tie rod is completely NLA and to her knowledge will not be reissued any time soon.

Last edited by jstyer; 02-27-2013 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Added bits.
jstyer is offline  
Old 02-27-2013, 02:49 PM
  #30  
bobt993
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
bobt993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philly Burbs
Posts: 3,051
Default

http://www.tarett.com/items/993-964-...008-detail.htm

pretty much the same as the ERP version.
bobt993 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 993 Project continues - Going Wide


Contact Us - About Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: