View Poll Results: Which modern 911 would you pick?
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Which modern Porsche would you pick.
06-02-2012, 01:12 AM
#31
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I answered the question asked. I chose the 996TT. It's one of the best supercar values out there right now and contrary to the opinion of many on this forum it is not ugly. Not as attractive as a 993, but not ugly. I'll take mine in yellow! 
06-02-2012, 01:47 AM
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The biggest problem with both choices regarding a car for regular use is that neither would clear the driveway apron at work. My base Audi TT (the only option is heated seats) BARELY makes it without scraping. There's no way the long nose of 996TT or 997 would not scrape.
06-02-2012, 02:22 PM
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If my 993 is totaled or stolen....I begin the hunt for a 997.1 GT3 (sorry, not one of the choices here). An exciting/focused machine i feel i must own. Major price bump though in the 75k range.....
06-02-2012, 06:02 PM
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Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
06-03-2012, 11:39 AM
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Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
Happy as can be with my decision. 993 is gone to someone who appreciates an old car and I have, for the same money, a TT '08 with 14000 mls.
Still can't believe it really.
Last edited by TT-911; 12-15-2012 at 07:44 AM.
06-03-2012, 12:37 PM
#42
I was at a porsche specialist yesterday.. three 05/06 997's parked out front sitting rather high on their suspension.. Engines nowhere to be seen.. no doubt blown to bits.. just having seen that makes me vote 996 TT without question. Also quite a rush to drive with that big punch in the back power.
06-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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Like the look of the 997's and some of the features, but gernading engines are not my thing (especially ones that I cannot fix).
The 996 is just not an attractive car (I am being kind here), between the headlights, lack of hips and generally numb feeling (and yes, I have driven them and they were on my list to consider before selecting to the 993TT).
Most of the 996 Turbo owners I know are really defensive of their cars - its a reaction because they know deep down they own one of the unloved Porsches. I have no argument about people who use those cars as track tools or go for performance because they go like stink and have a good engine - but we are talking everyday driving here.
So I would not pick either of them. Easy choice! Next?
Cheers,
Mike
06-03-2012, 04:06 PM
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Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
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OMG that sucks.
Still I'd feel comfortable with a M97 (not M96) engined 997. This generally means some 06 and all 07/08 cars though I'd verify the engine number to be sure. The newer IMS bearing is generally reliable. After owning a Boxster S for a year, I could never come to terms with the look and feel of the interior. The 997 is much better looking and marginally better constructed (except the engine).
But I'd much rather have a 993 than either
Cheers,
Joe
Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
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OMG that sucks.
Still I'd feel comfortable with a M97 (not M96) engined 997. This generally means some 06 and all 07/08 cars though I'd verify the engine number to be sure. The newer IMS bearing is generally reliable. After owning a Boxster S for a year, I could never come to terms with the look and feel of the interior. The 997 is much better looking and marginally better constructed (except the engine).
But I'd much rather have a 993 than either
Cheers,
Joe
