View Poll Results: Which modern 911 would you pick?
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Which modern Porsche would you pick.
#46
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Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
Yet another post on catastrophic failure. Cliffnotes: guy buys an 04 C4S with under 40K miles and within 24 hours the motor decides to have a meltdown.
This basic engine design lived in Boxsters and normally aspirated, non-GT model 911s from 1996-mid 2008. Gen I 997s included. Yes there were significant upgrades/changes/fixes made along the way. Yet it still happens. Having a replacement motor installed by Porsche doesn't mean it won't happen again. That "it could happen again" feeling is the thing that bothered me most about my 996 (an 02 model with a fresh, Porsche supplied and installed motor not long before I bought it with 27000ish miles). I just couldn't relax with the car knowing the costs involved with this happening. Fundamental design flaw comes to mind.
Yes, air-cooled 911s have their problems too but complete failure in such low mile examples is not one of them. The M96/M97 motors have and will continue to damage Porsche's reputation for years to come. Truly disappointing.
Rant over.
I had a chance to drive a modified 996 TT today for the first time, I actually had a pre-conceived idea it would be so smooth, numb and provide little driver communication. This turned out to be totally wrong and i was actually very impressed. Power and torque there is no discussion needed, we all know the answer to that....
It far exceeded the driving experience in a 997 C2S.
So when upgraded correctly 996 TT can be a whole different car. I'd take the 996TT now after driving one vs 997.
#49
Rennlist Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,698
Likes: 100
From: California Boardwalk, Skanderborg Denmark
From 2 liters in 1965 as a 2 cam, 2 valve, air-cooled engine to 4 liters as a 4 cam, 4 valve, water cooled engine - one long ride for basically the same crankcase!! Multiple Le Mans wins in the 935,936,956,962 and GT1, a hard act to beat. Not to mention every form of 911 racing over the years.
I wonder if the new A91 engine will show such character in its future. The last 997 Turbos used the A91 engine as a basis.
We will see.
#51
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 59
From: nowhere, but at least I'm getting there fast!