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Old 03-03-2012, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Babalouie
Agree that for things like oil changes, it seems more hassle, but it does end up being able to put the car much, much higher than is possible with stands, and more stable than stands. High enough to do an engine drop?
You must not have seen the ESCO stands. They'll go as high as you'd want to go....and are rock solid. For an engine drop, you'll have to remove the rear wheels...opps, the stands in question can't do that.
Old 03-03-2012, 04:32 AM
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I would not want to accidently start the engine though. I see potential for some serious accidents. I'd want my wheels free in the air.
Old 03-03-2012, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rialas
I would not want to accidently start the engine though. I see potential for some serious accidents. I'd want my wheels free in the air.
.... I can see the futures of 4-post lift sales dropping like a stone ....
Old 03-03-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Garth S
.... I can see the futures of 4-post lift sales dropping like a stone ....
good point. Although less likely to be tempted to start the car whilst high up in the air. I just wouldn't trust myself not taking the car out of gear and causing a disaster.

Ps. You also have safety chocks preventing car rolling of 4 poster?
Old 03-03-2012, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kjr914
For an engine drop, you'll have to remove the rear wheels...opps, the stands in question can't do that.
Keith, why do the rear wheels have to come off for an engine drop? We just dropped one...all wheels in place.

As for those ESCO stands, they need to get someone who knows how to weld. Those are terrible looking welds.
Old 03-03-2012, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hchc
Jackpoint jackstand. Too bad its not height adjustable. But I could see how it could still be useful.
I had not seen these - interesting design.

Each of the designs has a use for sure, and there is certainly no universal stand that does it all. I just thought the idea of automatically "indexing" when the car is being lifted is a great idea - and none of the examples I have seen here does that.

Before I got my lift, I used jackstands for years, and no matter the design, they are a pain in the *** to get in. Its a bit better when you use the engine as a jacking point, so at least you can get in the rear stands with clear jack points. Jacking the front was a total pain.

And I agree, the ESCO stand welds look like they were done in a rush, you can almost see the splatter.

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by Mike J
And I agree, the ESCO stand welds look like they were done in a rush, you can almost see the splatter.

Cheers,
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Mike, I just happened to see some of the welds done in the welding school where I work at defense. Talk about an art form!

They TIG welded up 30 thou stainless steel in a T joint. The fillet was seamless with no breaks taken and it looked like someone ran their finger along a thin bead of putty. Good penetration and the proof in the joint will then be verified in a lab.

Cripes, I can gas weld far better than those ESCO welds.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...nds-34924.html

I have the 6 ton models, 24" lift height and solid as a rock. It does take a while to get the car up in the air but once there its plenty stable to run the engine. My car was doing 100mph in 6th the other night on these. (back wheels off)
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Originally Posted by hchc
Jackpoint jackstand. Too bad its not height adjustable. But I could see how it could still be useful.
I love that idea for getting the car up quickly. But $600 for 4 jack stands? That is a little ridiculous!
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Originally Posted by Stealth 993
But $600 for 4 jack stands? That is a little ridiculous!
Thats for sure!
Old 03-03-2012, 08:06 PM
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That is 33% towards a full sized lift!!
Old 03-04-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth 993
I love that idea for getting the car up quickly. But $600 for 4 jack stands? That is a little ridiculous!
I can't deny they're expensive. They are made 1-at-a-time in Illinois. I refused to off shore them for a 30% price reduction - even though that gets them close to the Esco price. They can't be adjusted, but used in pairs you get lots of space under the 911. User comments - folks really like the stability. They were design with the track in mind - one place you can't use your lift. BTW - I owned a lift for 3 years before I invented them. I still use both in my own garage.

PS - RL'ers get them for less $
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The 'under-tire' jackstands wouldn't seem to make much sense for a C2 - can't stop the front wheels from spinning freely, and you're generally removing the rear wheels to do your work. Normal jackstands in front keep the car from rolling around, succumbing to gravity and falling on your noggin.
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Originally Posted by jpoint
They are made 1-at-a-time in Illinois.
What are they made from; stamped steel, stamped aluminum or cast aluminum?
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Originally Posted by jpoint
I can't deny they're expensive. They are made 1-at-a-time in Illinois. I refused to off shore them for a 30% price reduction - even though that gets them close to the Esco price. They can't be adjusted, but used in pairs you get lots of space under the 911. User comments - folks really like the stability. They were design with the track in mind - one place you can't use your lift. BTW - I owned a lift for 3 years before I invented them. I still use both in my own garage.

PS - RL'ers get them for less $
What is the RL price?


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