What really gets me, is that most of the people on this thread that want to drive their car at no more than 3K RPM's are Turbo owners.

 

Not sure if you saw this question, Quad.

 

Geez chuck, you've been on rennlist drives with me...several times. I don't recall me having much difficulty keeping up. Its a good thing we keep to a 20mph speed limit and all have our blinkers on.

Then again, if you read through the thread, I've said between 5 and 10 times that I DO drive the car hard, but am under no impressions that this is somehow good for engine life.

 

Thats because turbos have enough torque that they don't need over 3000rpm just to get moving

Then again, see the above post to realize I do tend to drive above 3000rpm when driving in a spirited manner. In normal around town driving, I do typically shift at 3k to 3500rpm.

You may win this one, because I don't have any scientific data here. The car is not as flimsy (not by a long shot) as my mustang was, but on bumpy roads, hard corner exit, and steep driveways (being traversed at an angle) you can feel the chassis flex.

 

this is really.........silly

 

I have to take my driveway at an angle every time I enter or leave the driveway. Especially when I enter it, my car is facing slightly upward and one of the front wheels is off of the ground. I can tell you that I have never heard my chassis flex under those conditions. The only sound I hear is the satisfying thump as the tire touches down on the concrete. It's been this way before I installed the DAS bar and is certainly even stiffer with the full cage.

I had an '84 VW Rabbit GTI back in the day. Even with an Autopower roll bar in back, that thing seemed slightly whippy to me. I still remember seeing a truck tire tread being flung up from the road and having to make an evasive swerve to the right to avoid it hitting my windshield. As I swerved, I heard something in the car squreak (cross between and squeal and a creak) and immediately thought, "Damn, this car is kinda flexy."

I do think maybe you or your buddies have cars that have been compromised in some way.

 

I suppose I should have stuck a " " in my original comment so you would know I was just messin' with you.

--Chuck--

 

Its possible.

fair enough chuck

 

If we're moving to chassis flex, I'll throw out that my windshield cracked last Thursday at a mere 25MPH (or less). Severest conditions I've ever seen on I-80, was like driving off road for a bit. But after a couple of minutes of the bucking motion where I even slowed down to a bit off idle in 2nd gear there was the crack.

 

It seems to me like a "quality of life" issue. How many of the non-daily driver cars will ever see 150,000 on the odo? Will "high" RPM of 3K to 4K realistically lead to so much wear to prevent you from going that distance?

On the other hand, the implication of low RPM operation is the possibility of more carbon build-up and SAI-related headaches. So the question is, what do you want to do with your car? Drive it for 150K or drop the engine every 30K but keep the original block "forever?"

Granted that these are extremes and there's a lot more gray in the real world, but you get the idea of the benefits expected by the two camps.

 

I know it's only February, but I officially nominate this as the Most Useless Waste Of Time Thread Of The Year.

Even though I have no proof.

 

well, to be fair, it is only a waste of time if you read it...replying is even more your fault.

I say the fault lies with you my good sir.

 

How did this get past 2 pages?

 

apparently it was a topic that illicits many opinions.

Care to add yours?

 

Quad, hard to believe you're not a member here. Any reason why not?

BTW, I don't really care, I'm just trying to get this waste of time to at least 25 pages...