This is what NOT tightening your droplink mount tight enough looks like.
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Notice the rotated mount/hanging droplink and yes.... the bent upper control arm ![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
I guess the mount rotated and then over a bump the suspension compressed where the droplink mount met the control arm. I talked to Darin and he said that if tightened correctly these should not move. So I can put the new arm in have the mount/collar tightened to hell.... or bite the bullet and pull the suspension apart to add locking collars. The head mechanic at the dealer was telling me a lower collar wouldnt allow you do have a weight bias (or something like that) and recommended if i was going to add collars I should order 4 more and have the setup like the Pss9s did (see attached). Does this make sense? Locking collars above and below the mount as well as a set for the spring perch? How is that really any different that just adding one at the bottom?
I guess I chalk it up to a learning curve....
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I guess the mount rotated and then over a bump the suspension compressed where the droplink mount met the control arm. I talked to Darin and he said that if tightened correctly these should not move. So I can put the new arm in have the mount/collar tightened to hell.... or bite the bullet and pull the suspension apart to add locking collars. The head mechanic at the dealer was telling me a lower collar wouldnt allow you do have a weight bias (or something like that) and recommended if i was going to add collars I should order 4 more and have the setup like the Pss9s did (see attached). Does this make sense? Locking collars above and below the mount as well as a set for the spring perch? How is that really any different that just adding one at the bottom?
I guess I chalk it up to a learning curve....
Last edited by ryano; 01-21-2011 at 04:54 PM.
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ryano,
I have PSS9 and no extra lock collar, I triple checked the alignment of the drop link to the shock body and then tightened with a brass drift and a hammer, then marked the collar to the mount with a sharpie and constantly checked for movement over the last year. Everything stayed where it was after some pretty spirited driving. I don't think you will need to add extra lock collars if they are installed and tightened correctly.
Also I think I have some extra KT links at home (your bent control arm), if you have not replaced yours yet I can check to see what I have later tonight.
I have PSS9 and no extra lock collar, I triple checked the alignment of the drop link to the shock body and then tightened with a brass drift and a hammer, then marked the collar to the mount with a sharpie and constantly checked for movement over the last year. Everything stayed where it was after some pretty spirited driving. I don't think you will need to add extra lock collars if they are installed and tightened correctly.
Also I think I have some extra KT links at home (your bent control arm), if you have not replaced yours yet I can check to see what I have later tonight.
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I have an idea that it wasnt tightened enough and its my fault. I ordered a new dealer part but if you have a spare I would be interesting in buying that. PM me once you look. thanks!
ryano,
I have PSS9 and no extra lock collar, I triple checked the alignment of the drop link to the shock body and then tightened with a brass drift and a hammer, then marked the collar to the mount with a sharpie and constantly checked for movement over the last year. Everything stayed where it was after some pretty spirited driving. I don't think you will need to add extra lock collars if they are installed and tightened correctly.
Also I think I have some extra KT links at home (your bent control arm), if you have not replaced yours yet I can check to see what I have later tonight.
I have PSS9 and no extra lock collar, I triple checked the alignment of the drop link to the shock body and then tightened with a brass drift and a hammer, then marked the collar to the mount with a sharpie and constantly checked for movement over the last year. Everything stayed where it was after some pretty spirited driving. I don't think you will need to add extra lock collars if they are installed and tightened correctly.
Also I think I have some extra KT links at home (your bent control arm), if you have not replaced yours yet I can check to see what I have later tonight.
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I had no idea. I have it in the shop for alignment and they called me and told me to come take a look at it.
I agree. Of course I did a TON of research for the DIY install instructions, but never saw the post about the 2nd set of collars till after it was done ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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That sucks... sorry it happened.
(What Erik said ^^^^)
Design is fine IF installed in the proper orientation and tight. That is the trick
A lot of 993s running around out there without an extra lock ring.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I agree, keyed would be better... or a set screw like KW uses.
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(What Erik said ^^^^)
Design is fine IF installed in the proper orientation and tight. That is the trick
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A lot of 993s running around out there without an extra lock ring.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I agree, keyed would be better... or a set screw like KW uses.
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That sucks... sorry it happened.
(What Erik said ^^^^)
Design is fine IF installed in the proper orientation and tight. That is the trick
A lot of 993s running around out there without an extra lock ring.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I agree, keyed would be better... or a set screw like KW uses.
Silly Germans
(What Erik said ^^^^)
Design is fine IF installed in the proper orientation and tight. That is the trick
![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
A lot of 993s running around out there without an extra lock ring.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I agree, keyed would be better... or a set screw like KW uses.
Silly Germans
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good to know... so for proper installation the droplinks need to be completely vertical under load?
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thanks guys
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+993, It all comes down to Installation, If the Link Bracket is not aligned it receive a force that will rotate it, and then break the link. aligned right and one lock ring it will last. Mine was like this for a number of years and at least 30 track days a year, and a very rough track without a problem.
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No extra collar needed, but I always get them tight by hand, then take a hammer and punch and give the collar a good smack for extra tightness. Haven't ever had one come loose. I've done lots.
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