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Old 08-05-2010, 11:49 AM
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Feel bad for the guys... https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...sue-again.html

Reading ^ make me mad..
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That sucks. I'm not surprised that Porsche is reluctant to help people just out of warranty when their engines grenade. I'm sure they can't afford to help everyone with this. It's not like they make much money.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-p...0-per-car.html

I understand that our cars aren't without their foibles, but reading all this stuff makes me never want to own a newer Porsche out of warranty. Actually it makes me never want to own a newer Porsche. Too bad.
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That's a real bummer, but anyone who has an M96 engined Porsche who refuses to do the $8-1200 Jake Raby/LN Engineering IMS bearing fix as a preventive measure is just rolling the dice. From what I understand, Porsche didn't do a proper upgrade on the IMS until sometime in the 2006 model year, so I expect to see more late 996 and early 997s with posts like these.
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Another reason not to buy a water-cooled Porsche. As my very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic says, "Every 996/997 I see is put together like ****, and the cars are pieces of expensive junk".

993, baby.
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Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe
Another reason not to buy a water-cooled Porsche. As my very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic says, "Every 996/997 I see is put together like ****, and the cars are pieces of expensive junk".

993, baby.
^ PCNA has stepped up to the plate with a new engine.
Old 08-06-2010, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TRINITONY
^ PCNA has stepped up to the plate with a new engine.
Here's the sad part: it could happen again.
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I got a great deal on a 993 and thought about selling it for a 997, but after doing some research I kept my 993. I had a xkr and 3 months after buying it ...boom went the engine. Timing tension failure.

Short of the long... I now love my 993 after a few upgrades and wouldn't trade it for a 997 ... not even for an even trade for a 997 S.
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Originally Posted by TRINITONY
^ PCNA has stepped up to the plate with a new engine.
Nice!!! Now if we can just get them to acknowledge these valve guides!
Old 08-06-2010, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TRINITONY
^ PCNA has stepped up to the plate with a new engine.
It's not like they can't afford it.

"A new study has found that German sports car maker Porsche earns an incredible average of $28,000 in profit on every vehicle it sells. The figure — printed in Germany’s Welt am Sonntag newspaper, citing a study by B&D Forecast — dwarfs the per-car earnings of virtually any other automaker."
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Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe
Another reason not to buy a water-cooled Porsche. As my very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic says, "Every 996/997 I see is put together like ****, and the cars are pieces of expensive junk".

993, baby.
Any turbo, or a GT3, share the air cooled architecture. Until the '10s, anyway.
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Originally Posted by gonzilla
Nice!!! Now if we can just get them to acknowledge these valve guides!
They never did, starting with engine #1 45+ years ago. Just that until around 1980 you'd likely lose a chain tensioner, and the guides would get upgraded as part of your top end repair.
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Previous 997 owner, current 993 owner. The 997 was my first Porsche. While I didn't have anything catastrophic fail on my car, I can say that the 997 was littered with interior rattles while my 111,000 miles 993 still feels like a fault. I really enjoyed my 997; it made for a great daily driver but I don't think I'd ever go back unless it was to a first generation 997 GT3.
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Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe
Another reason not to buy a water-cooled Porsche. As my very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic says, "Every 996/997 I see is put together like ****, and the cars are pieces of expensive junk".

993, baby.
That's quite a statement considering it's BS! I've had a few 997's and a 996 and they are not put together like **** or expensive junk. I've owned enough American cars to know what that means. I have a 997 Twin Turbo and it's anything but junk!
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Originally Posted by goofballdeluxe
Another reason not to buy a water-cooled Porsche. As my very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic says, "Every 996/997 I see is put together like ****, and the cars are pieces of expensive junk".

993, baby.
I'd have to say your head is in the sand.


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