Who do I pay to remove the cosmoline from my car?
07-15-2010, 05:38 PM
#76
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07-15-2010, 06:11 PM
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here's an example of what you get for $50 per hour, 71 hours total on this 355. later in the thread he writes that a normal exterior would be around 50 hours.
due to the lack of angles and minus the ferrari rear deck, I'd guess a 993 would be no more than 35 hours.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=284038
a current thread shows rebuilding the interior.
there was a full detail on autopia.org of a black 993, but it seems the forum is under construction or something.
due to the lack of angles and minus the ferrari rear deck, I'd guess a 993 would be no more than 35 hours.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=284038
a current thread shows rebuilding the interior.
there was a full detail on autopia.org of a black 993, but it seems the forum is under construction or something.
07-16-2010, 11:49 AM
#78
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What was the $2800 for, ie. How many guys were working on the car.
I would happily pay this amount for you to get my car looking like Andreas's, but I doubt that this can be done in anywhere near 4 days by one person (unless the car was already at a very high standard).
I would happily pay this amount for you to get my car looking like Andreas's, but I doubt that this can be done in anywhere near 4 days by one person (unless the car was already at a very high standard).
The big work was getting the oxidized paint to shine, & getting the interior up to par. We did spend an entire day cleaning & polishing the chrome.
here's an example of what you get for $50 per hour, 71 hours total on this 355. later in the thread he writes that a normal exterior would be around 50 hours.
due to the lack of angles and minus the ferrari rear deck, I'd guess a 993 would be no more than 35 hours.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=284038
a current thread shows rebuilding the interior.
there was a full detail on autopia.org of a black 993, but it seems the forum is under construction or something.
due to the lack of angles and minus the ferrari rear deck, I'd guess a 993 would be no more than 35 hours.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=284038
a current thread shows rebuilding the interior.
there was a full detail on autopia.org of a black 993, but it seems the forum is under construction or something.
IMHO, if you had a "good" 993 & wanted it prepped for a serious show, it would be at least 40 man hours.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-1997-c4s.html
07-16-2010, 01:25 PM
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When I prepped my C4S for her first concourse, it was 40-50 horus by my self, then another 20 or so hours with my friend helping. We removed every exterior part that unbolts, stripped the trunk, pulled out the seats, removed a few engine parts. We detailed the underside of the car, about one arms length in.
IMHO, if you had a "good" 993 & wanted it prepped for a serious show, it would be at least 40 man hours.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-1997-c4s.html
IMHO, if you had a "good" 993 & wanted it prepped for a serious show, it would be at least 40 man hours.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...-1997-c4s.html
I helped my friend one time for Parade in an '85.5 944 that was a couple of years old at the time. Ha. We got smoked. DFL, and by a large margin. (But I trophied in the autocross, and was highest placing non R-compound finisher!)
Concours is nuts, but it sure is nice to see the cars at their best. Took a lot of photos during that time!
07-16-2010, 03:40 PM
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How'd you do? Friends of mine competed in the (then) serious Zone 8 concours series in the '80s with..............a 1980 924. Full concours class. And they drove it to all the events in So Cal from Phoenix. Won pretty much everything, including several best of shows. Absolutely INSANE level of prep. Some people were doing the for-hire, and I'm sure they spent more than most serious time trialers (no club racing existed then).
I helped my friend one time for Parade in an '85.5 944 that was a couple of years old at the time. Ha. We got smoked. DFL, and by a large margin. (But I trophied in the autocross, and was highest placing non R-compound finisher!)
Concours is nuts, but it sure is nice to see the cars at their best. Took a lot of photos during that time!
I helped my friend one time for Parade in an '85.5 944 that was a couple of years old at the time. Ha. We got smoked. DFL, and by a large margin. (But I trophied in the autocross, and was highest placing non R-compound finisher!)
Concours is nuts, but it sure is nice to see the cars at their best. Took a lot of photos during that time!
This was my first PCA concours. They broke the judges up into 3 separate teams for my class. I didn't even place, but a guy who literally just washed his car & drove in took 2nd. A car that I detailed 4 months prior, took 1st, & was no where near as clean as mine. Needles to say I was a bit pissed off.
Since then, they have changed the way they judge, & last one, that I spent about 8 hours prepping I took 1st in the Full class. Had 0 deductions for my engine.
Yes, if you want to win, the prep is insane! But yell it's usually once a year, & I really like having the car that clean! Of course it's ruined by one rain storm!
10-05-2017, 10:41 AM
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Sorry to bring up an old thread....
I was searching for how to clean off the Cosmoline... It seems what I thought was rust on some parts underneath was just very old, dry, hard cosmoline.
I found this out as I started sanding a part down for a repaint and noticed as I sanded it.. I got past the 'rusty' layer only to find a perfectly clean, smooth paint finish underneath.
Does anyone know of a good chemical that I can spray to help remove the old cosmoline???
I was searching for how to clean off the Cosmoline... It seems what I thought was rust on some parts underneath was just very old, dry, hard cosmoline.
I found this out as I started sanding a part down for a repaint and noticed as I sanded it.. I got past the 'rusty' layer only to find a perfectly clean, smooth paint finish underneath.
Does anyone know of a good chemical that I can spray to help remove the old cosmoline???
10-06-2017, 05:44 PM
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The latest and greatest method is cryogenically...the method actually freezes the stuff off. It takes a few hours and expensive but quick and effective. Trouble is, the equipment is very expensive and found only in major metropolitan markets. As for chemicals, you'll get a variety of suggestions: Stoner's XENIT, mineral spirits, WD-40, 3M Adhesive Remover, ZYMOL's STRIK...but, other than the cryo method, it requires hours and hours of tedious work.
10-07-2017, 08:53 PM
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10-09-2017, 04:36 PM
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I wonder if one could just buy aluminized undercoating spray and just paint over the cosmoline as I am not so sure removing something that offers corrosion protection should be removed. Might be better to add to it, lots of brands and grades of this stuff, municipalities use it on salt truck chassis. Most would approximate the color of the engine case.
10-09-2017, 05:31 PM
#87
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How do you all avoid the ill effects, e.g., brain damage, of these aggressive solvents? The dry ice process looks quite appealing and I know it has been debated in other threads, but would want to know what many many cars have emerged unscathed before I give it a go.
10-10-2017, 12:40 AM
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With a toothbrush and solvent you'll be there forever!I would use stainless or brass idiot brushes (military term) for the fine stuff, and something like this for larger areas.
https://www.weldingoutfitter.com/pro...SABEgLEN_D_BwE
Dremel or Dremel like tools also make brushes for the very very fine areas.
https://www.ebay.com/i/371515039566?...D1331852334617
How do you all avoid the ill effects, e.g., brain damage, of these aggressive solvents? The dry ice process looks quite appealing and I know it has been debated in other threads, but would want to know what many many cars have emerged unscathed before I give it a go.
