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Old 06-12-2010, 07:01 PM
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Have to replace the crest on my car due to one of the screw posts failing (snapped apart at the base of the post, the remnant looking like a flathead nail, and a PAIN to get off the car). Bought a NIB crest on eBay, claimed to work on a 993. Part number on eBay listing and received box was different; based on that number I assumed the new one was meant for a 996 and/or Boxster.

Old: 993.559.211.00
New: 996.559.211.00

That said, the ACTUAL part number cast into the back of the new crest is the same as my old one, although the crests have several physical differences. At this point I'm not all that picky about most of them, but for one: the new crest has attachment posts with NO threading, although the retaining 'nuts' the seller supplied are for all intent and purposes identical to the old ones.

My question is: assuming this isn't a counterfeit emblem, do current and or 996/997/Boxster hood emblems use retaining posts without threading? Am I to assume that friction fitting these nuts onto smooth-finished posts is good enough to hold it in place, when back in 1996 clearly someone thought it was not?



Like looking at 18K (left, original) vs 10K (new on right)...





The box it came in...
Old 06-12-2010, 07:16 PM
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The nuts make the treads on the smooth posts. Also use the OEM gasket from the dealer if you are replacing it.
Old 06-12-2010, 07:53 PM
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Thanks for the 411. Always learn something new coming here.
Old 06-13-2010, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cactus
The nuts make the treads on the smooth posts. Also use the OEM gasket from the dealer if you are replacing it.
Yup, self threading nuts. Hmm, that sounds kinda funny...
Old 06-13-2010, 03:00 AM
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jb weld that thing at stick back on
Old 06-13-2010, 11:40 AM
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I was also going to jump in with the JB Weld...that might hold the pin in place to retain the old crest.
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+993 on simple fix of soldering the pin of the old one. I like the finish of the old one better than the new one, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by cabrio993
+993 on simple fix of soldering the pin of the old one. I like the finish of the old one better than the new one, IMHO.
No disagreement from me on the finish. The new one looks cheap and amateurish in comparison, particularly with the 'STUTTGART' lettering. It also doesn't sit on the car in the same position; after dry-fitting, the posts are slightly higher so it sits lower on the hood. As a result there's a mark left by the top edge of the old gasket exposed on the clearcoat; shows up real clearly on a metallic black car. Didn't think I'd have to get out the Porter-Cable buffer for this, but if I use the new crest there's some finishing work I'm going to have to plan on doing.

I think I'll give the cold weld a try; couldn't hurt at this point.
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+ 1 on the JB Weld
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Having had the exact thing happen to me (well, the crest was 12 years old!) - I got a new one and put the old one on the wall in the garage.

The rubber gasket - if you use the new one -- is an absolute PITA to 'get right' so that it sits and fits 'around' the crest completely on all sides and corners. Be prepared to spend a LOT of time on this to get it right. I 'warmed' up my rubber gasket by heating it in water - which made it a lot more 'pliable' and 'agreeable' to what I wanted it to do --but, still, it was a lot of 'work'.

Also, I put a dab of grease in the two holes - so as to act as a 'water repellant' (preventing rust) before 'snugging' the crest on.

Been there for 2+ years now -- and no problems.

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Yeah forgot to add the heating part. I sat my gasket on the hood in the sun for a while to soften it. Went right on.
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I always recommend super glue on the badge gasket. warm it up and glue it on one thin strip at a time. wait for it to dry and stretch the gasket, apply more glue and progress that way.

That new badge does look legit though, it's genuine.
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Originally Posted by Turb-OH Brad
I always recommend super glue on the badge gasket. warm it up and glue it on one thin strip at a time. wait for it to dry and stretch the gasket, apply more glue and progress that way.
Interesting technique. I have never tried it that way before. Sounds kind of good. Sometimes that gasket is a real PIA!
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i just did this to mine. JB Weld works great! and then the gasket i used was the following off pelican - 7L5-853-611-B-M100 it has a lot more rubber running around it for a great seal and is easy to get on.

The only thing i need to work on is that the crest doesnt sit flat on the hood - anyone have that issue?

phil.
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Glue is the best way to keep the gasket on the badge

The one in the pic that came from the box is not a Genuine Porsche badge, OEM ish maybe

Porsche has put a stop to OEM badges and decals in the last few months, it will take some time to filter through but these OEM ones wont be available this time next year, prices from Porsche are 3 times OEM

The 993 numbered badge was superceeded to the 996 numbered badge BTW



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