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993: Exactly what are the differences between the Carrera and Carrera RS besides displacement?

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Weight, suspension, transmission gearing, cosmetics, more sugar.
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Originally Posted by _rocket
993: Exactly what are the differences between the Carrera and Carrera RS besides displacement?

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For further information, you may want to try the search feature. I'll give you a head start: http://p-car.com/hank/993rs/
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You might try searching here for some of the info on RS clone builds. I'm sure the minutia was debated endlessly there.
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There is a huge list and I'm sure someone will post it before I get home.
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As a pair of wise philosophers once said: "harder, better*, stronger, faster" .. I think that sums up the idea behind the Porsche RS models versus their non-RS counterparts.

* Perhaps replace 'better' with 'leaner'...
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Send me your email and I have the RS tech spec book (graciously shared by some other member).
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Originally Posted by bart1
Send me your email and I have the RS tech spec book (graciously shared by some other member).
Hopefully you are referring to WKD499620 'Service information Technik '96 Carrera RS' but do try to get an original, the copies I have seen are pretty poor.

also
WKD 424520 "'94 & '95 Technical Specifications"
of course the 993 shop manuals and lastly any RoW PET
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Yes basically the price and the wheels as stated above and a couple other things below off the top of my head:


The engine is a M64/20 type 3.8 liter producing 300hp at 6,100rpm and 275 ft lb of torque at 5,000rpm. (standard 993
is 3.6 liter engine)
-modified crankcase for larger 109mm bore in type cylinders (standard 993 utilized 107mm slip fit)
-modified camshafts with greater lift on intake and exhaust sides
-increase cylinder head ports and larger valves
-lightweight single mass flywheel for M003 ( M002 and standard 993 utilized dual mass)
-single alternator belt drive with lightweight crank pulley
-solid rubber engine mounts (standard 993 utilized hydraulic version)
-magnesium Varioram intake plenum with larger tube diameter(standard 993 is aluminum and started in 1996 MY)
-optamized mufflers and catalyst for larger engine displacement
-no belt driven air injection for emission control
-larger injectors
-revised fuel and ignition mapping
-higher engine rev limit
-92 liter endurance type fuel tank

The transmission is based on the standard G50/21 of the standard 993 but modified for motor sport purpose. The 993 RS
features the G50/31 the Club sport featured the G50/32. Gearbox modifications from standard 993 G50/21 are listed below.
-1st and 2end gears removable from the main shaft to allow for different gear sets to be installed(standard car has fixed
gears) gear ratios are taller in first and second than standard carrera but shorter in third through 6th gears.
-Club sport version has same gear ratios however with smaller gear tooth count (large teeth) to allow for extra strength
-Limited slip differential with different locking values based on deceleration and load. Locking value under load 40%
locking value under deceleration 65%.
-steel synchronizing rings in first through sixth gears for M003 only
-hardened transmission mounts
-reduced shift lever ratio from 4.2:1 to 3.4:1 with solid rod mount and coupling (no rubber)
-993 Turbo rear drive shafts

The running gear of the 993 RS is heavily revised from the standard 993 road car, below the features are outlined from
the standard 993 road car.
-vehicle lowered 30mm in the front and 40mm in the rear.
-revised front wheel carrier to allow for more negative camber and improved control arm and tie rod angle at lower ride
height.
-revised tie rods for lower ride height and wheel carrier
-harder rubber mounts for front control arms
-front stabilizer bar 23mm with 5 levels of adjustment
-progressive front and rear spring with higher spring rate
-"mono ball" type strut mounting front and rear
-revised rear camber arm to allow for great negative camber settings with harder rubber utilized for rear control arms
-shortened steering ratio with greater driver force for operation to allow for greater feedback
-20mm rear stabilizer bar with 5 levels of adjustment
-wheels are 8" front and 10" rear with 18" diameter three piece Speedline light alloy.
-enlarged front brakes 322mm with 32mm thickness, enlarged rear brakes 322mm with 28mm thickness with special
offset to allow for narrow body
-front strut brace under hood

The body of the 993 RS has been stripped of non-essential items (unless ordered with additional equipment) in order to
save weight. The 993 RS is 280 pounds lighter than the standard road going 993. The modifications and
parts omitted from standard 993 road car are listed below.
-reduced PCV under seal
-reinforced chassis (partial seam welded in tunnel and strut areas)
-no sunroof (not optional)
-no pneumatic front hood struts only aluminum prop rod
-no airbags standard, airbags optional
-preparations for fire extinguisher mounting
-no rear seats, sound deadening, rear belts, side panels, or associated trim parts.
-aluminum front hood
-manual adjustable mirrors
-revised front spoiler for increased down force
-door rocker panel moldings for improved aerodynamics
-fixed rear spoiler for increased down force
-thin glass all around approx. 30% lighter than standard glass
-reduced windshield washer system container down to 1.2 liters
-36 amp hour battery standard, 70 amp optional (half the weight of standard 993 70 amp battery)
-no radio, no speakers, or cassette box in center console standard, radio optional
-revised extended hub steering wheel three spoke standard or optional airbag wheel
-Recaro speedster type seating standard or optional lightweight sport type seats with no power adjustment fully manual
-body colored seat belts, door pull straps, and "Carrera RS" script on rear interior carpet
-manual windows standard, power windows optional
-aluminum type curved shifter **** with crest
-simplified door panels with no door pockets, armrest, or pull handle
-manual door locking (no power)
-no dome lighting, interior lighting only in tunnel area
-no knee protector strips unless ordered with airbags
-six point harness mounting consoles welded to chassis in tunnel and floor pan
-no alarm system, equipped with Porsche Drive block
-no lights for engine compartment, luggage compartment or ashtray
-no head light washing or beam adjustment
-no rear window defrosting
-no fan belt monitoring system
-no intermittent wiper switch
-no dashboard light dimmer
-revised wire harness for deleted items
-Optional aero package includes bi-wing rear and aggressive front splitter from club sport-cup RS version.

And much more, tired of typing.....hope that answers your question.
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Originally Posted by schmidtwerk
Yes basically the price and the wheels as stated above and a couple other things below off the top of my head:


The engine is a M64/20 type 3.8 liter producing 300hp at 6,100rpm and 275 ft lb of torque at 5,000rpm. (standard 993
is 3.6 liter engine)
-modified crankcase for larger 109mm bore in type cylinders (standard 993 utilized 107mm slip fit)
-modified camshafts with greater lift on intake and exhaust sides
-increase cylinder head ports and larger valves
-lightweight single mass flywheel for M003 ( M002 and standard 993 utilized dual mass)
-single alternator belt drive with lightweight crank pulley
-solid rubber engine mounts (standard 993 utilized hydraulic version)
-magnesium Varioram intake plenum with larger tube diameter(standard 993 is aluminum and started in 1996 MY)
-optamized mufflers and catalyst for larger engine displacement
-no belt driven air injection for emission control
-larger injectors
-revised fuel and ignition mapping
-higher engine rev limit
-92 liter endurance type fuel tank

The transmission is based on the standard G50/21 of the standard 993 but modified for motor sport purpose. The 993 RS
features the G50/31 the Club sport featured the G50/32. Gearbox modifications from standard 993 G50/21 are listed below.
-1st and 2end gears removable from the main shaft to allow for different gear sets to be installed(standard car has fixed
gears) gear ratios are taller in first and second than standard carrera but shorter in third through 6th gears.
-Club sport version has same gear ratios however with smaller gear tooth count (large teeth) to allow for extra strength
-Limited slip differential with different locking values based on deceleration and load. Locking value under load 40%
locking value under deceleration 65%.
-steel synchronizing rings in first through sixth gears for M003 only
-hardened transmission mounts
-reduced shift lever ratio from 4.2:1 to 3.4:1 with solid rod mount and coupling (no rubber)
-993 Turbo rear drive shafts

The running gear of the 993 RS is heavily revised from the standard 993 road car, below the features are outlined from
the standard 993 road car.
-vehicle lowered 30mm in the front and 40mm in the rear.
-revised front wheel carrier to allow for more negative camber and improved control arm and tie rod angle at lower ride
height.
-revised tie rods for lower ride height and wheel carrier
-harder rubber mounts for front control arms
-front stabilizer bar 23mm with 5 levels of adjustment
-progressive front and rear spring with higher spring rate
-"mono ball" type strut mounting front and rear
-revised rear camber arm to allow for great negative camber settings with harder rubber utilized for rear control arms
-shortened steering ratio with greater driver force for operation to allow for greater feedback
-20mm rear stabilizer bar with 5 levels of adjustment
-wheels are 8" front and 10" rear with 18" diameter three piece Speedline light alloy.
-enlarged front brakes 322mm with 32mm thickness, enlarged rear brakes 322mm with 28mm thickness with special
offset to allow for narrow body
-front strut brace under hood

The body of the 993 RS has been stripped of non-essential items (unless ordered with additional equipment) in order to
save weight. The 993 RS is 280 pounds lighter than the standard road going 993. The modifications and
parts omitted from standard 993 road car are listed below.
-reduced PCV under seal
-reinforced chassis (partial seam welded in tunnel and strut areas)
-no sunroof (not optional)
-no pneumatic front hood struts only aluminum prop rod
-no airbags standard, airbags optional
-preparations for fire extinguisher mounting
-no rear seats, sound deadening, rear belts, side panels, or associated trim parts.
-aluminum front hood
-manual adjustable mirrors
-revised front spoiler for increased down force
-door rocker panel moldings for improved aerodynamics
-fixed rear spoiler for increased down force
-thin glass all around approx. 30% lighter than standard glass
-reduced windshield washer system container down to 1.2 liters
-36 amp hour battery standard, 70 amp optional (half the weight of standard 993 70 amp battery)
-no radio, no speakers, or cassette box in center console standard, radio optional
-revised extended hub steering wheel three spoke standard or optional airbag wheel
-Recaro speedster type seating standard or optional lightweight sport type seats with no power adjustment fully manual
-body colored seat belts, door pull straps, and "Carrera RS" script on rear interior carpet
-manual windows standard, power windows optional
-aluminum type curved shifter **** with crest
-simplified door panels with no door pockets, armrest, or pull handle
-manual door locking (no power)
-no dome lighting, interior lighting only in tunnel area
-no knee protector strips unless ordered with airbags
-six point harness mounting consoles welded to chassis in tunnel and floor pan
-no alarm system, equipped with Porsche Drive block
-no lights for engine compartment, luggage compartment or ashtray
-no head light washing or beam adjustment
-no rear window defrosting
-no fan belt monitoring system
-no intermittent wiper switch
-no dashboard light dimmer
-revised wire harness for deleted items
-Optional aero package includes bi-wing rear and aggressive front splitter from club sport-cup RS version.

And much more, tired of typing.....hope that answers your question.
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
Hopefully you are referring to WKD499620 'Service information Technik '96 Carrera RS' but do try to get an original, the copies I have seen are pretty poor.

also
WKD 424520 "'94 & '95 Technical Specifications"
of course the 993 shop manuals and lastly any RoW PET
Yes, I have an electronic copy of the WKD 499 620. I may have gotten it from you, Bill - I forget.
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Originally Posted by bart1
Yes, I have an electronic copy of the WKD 499 620. I may have gotten it from you, Bill - I forget.
No not me, I have an original. But I have seen the pdf copy. The pdf is very low quality. Better than nothing though
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Originally Posted by schmidtwerk
Yes basically the price and the wheels as stated above and a couple other things below off the top of my head:


The engine is a M64/20 type 3.8 liter producing 300hp at 6,100rpm and 275 ft lb of torque at 5,000rpm. (standard 993
is 3.6 liter engine)
-modified crankcase for larger 109mm bore in type cylinders (standard 993 utilized 107mm slip fit)
-modified camshafts with greater lift on intake and exhaust sides
-increase cylinder head ports and larger valves
-lightweight single mass flywheel for M003 ( M002 and standard 993 utilized dual mass)
-single alternator belt drive with lightweight crank pulley
-solid rubber engine mounts (standard 993 utilized hydraulic version)
-magnesium Varioram intake plenum with larger tube diameter(standard 993 is aluminum and started in 1996 MY)
-optamized mufflers and catalyst for larger engine displacement
-no belt driven air injection for emission control
-larger injectors
-revised fuel and ignition mapping
-higher engine rev limit
-92 liter endurance type fuel tank

The transmission is based on the standard G50/21 of the standard 993 but modified for motor sport purpose. The 993 RS
features the G50/31 the Club sport featured the G50/32. Gearbox modifications from standard 993 G50/21 are listed below.
-1st and 2end gears removable from the main shaft to allow for different gear sets to be installed(standard car has fixed
gears) gear ratios are taller in first and second than standard carrera but shorter in third through 6th gears.
-Club sport version has same gear ratios however with smaller gear tooth count (large teeth) to allow for extra strength
-Limited slip differential with different locking values based on deceleration and load. Locking value under load 40%
locking value under deceleration 65%.
-steel synchronizing rings in first through sixth gears for M003 only
-hardened transmission mounts
-reduced shift lever ratio from 4.2:1 to 3.4:1 with solid rod mount and coupling (no rubber)
-993 Turbo rear drive shafts

The running gear of the 993 RS is heavily revised from the standard 993 road car, below the features are outlined from
the standard 993 road car.
-vehicle lowered 30mm in the front and 40mm in the rear.
-revised front wheel carrier to allow for more negative camber and improved control arm and tie rod angle at lower ride
height.
-revised tie rods for lower ride height and wheel carrier
-harder rubber mounts for front control arms
-front stabilizer bar 23mm with 5 levels of adjustment
-progressive front and rear spring with higher spring rate
-"mono ball" type strut mounting front and rear
-revised rear camber arm to allow for great negative camber settings with harder rubber utilized for rear control arms
-shortened steering ratio with greater driver force for operation to allow for greater feedback
-20mm rear stabilizer bar with 5 levels of adjustment
-wheels are 8" front and 10" rear with 18" diameter three piece Speedline light alloy.
-enlarged front brakes 322mm with 32mm thickness, enlarged rear brakes 322mm with 28mm thickness with special
offset to allow for narrow body
-front strut brace under hood

The body of the 993 RS has been stripped of non-essential items (unless ordered with additional equipment) in order to
save weight. The 993 RS is 280 pounds lighter than the standard road going 993. The modifications and
parts omitted from standard 993 road car are listed below.
-reduced PCV under seal
-reinforced chassis (partial seam welded in tunnel and strut areas)
-no sunroof (not optional)
-no pneumatic front hood struts only aluminum prop rod
-no airbags standard, airbags optional
-preparations for fire extinguisher mounting
-no rear seats, sound deadening, rear belts, side panels, or associated trim parts.
-aluminum front hood
-manual adjustable mirrors
-revised front spoiler for increased down force
-door rocker panel moldings for improved aerodynamics
-fixed rear spoiler for increased down force
-thin glass all around approx. 30% lighter than standard glass
-reduced windshield washer system container down to 1.2 liters
-36 amp hour battery standard, 70 amp optional (half the weight of standard 993 70 amp battery)
-no radio, no speakers, or cassette box in center console standard, radio optional
-revised extended hub steering wheel three spoke standard or optional airbag wheel
-Recaro speedster type seating standard or optional lightweight sport type seats with no power adjustment fully manual
-body colored seat belts, door pull straps, and "Carrera RS" script on rear interior carpet
-manual windows standard, power windows optional
-aluminum type curved shifter **** with crest
-simplified door panels with no door pockets, armrest, or pull handle
-manual door locking (no power)
-no dome lighting, interior lighting only in tunnel area
-no knee protector strips unless ordered with airbags
-six point harness mounting consoles welded to chassis in tunnel and floor pan
-no alarm system, equipped with Porsche Drive block
-no lights for engine compartment, luggage compartment or ashtray
-no head light washing or beam adjustment
-no rear window defrosting
-no fan belt monitoring system
-no intermittent wiper switch
-no dashboard light dimmer
-revised wire harness for deleted items
-Optional aero package includes bi-wing rear and aggressive front splitter from club sport-cup RS version.

And much more, tired of typing.....hope that answers your question.
THats top of head?..... geez.....


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