VNTGSPD

Soliciting experienced opinions on how to proceed with my next project...

I am sneaking up on the 120K mile service on my '95 C2 and plan to do the following:

Plugs
Plug wires
Caps and Rotors
Dist belt
Fuel filter
Air filter
Lower valve covers & gaskets
Chain cover gaskets
Oil and filters
Clean ISV

Power steering belt (if I drop the motor)
Hydraulic lifters (if I drop the motor (a few are getting slightly noisy but no issue - this would be preventative maintenance really))

I have the tools and the mechanical aptitude to do the job with the engine in the car or out. Just looking for feedback on the PITA factor and time factor of one method versus the other.

Thanks!

AOW162435

Drop it!


Andreas

goofballdeluxe

Hey there...

I, too, am in SoCal and am looking for some hands on experience on how to do some of these jobs on my C4S. If you need an extra set of hands, I'd gladly give you some free labor for some learning...

Robin 993DX

Do you need a new clutch?

If you still have a lot of life left on your clutch you can do all of the things mentioned above without dropping the motor and it will take much less time. The P/S belt should be ok, I have not seen one in bad shape even from a 120k mile 18 year old 964. There is a way to replace the P/S belt without taking out the came shaft gear if you really really want to replace the P/S belt with the engine in the car.

But personally I am hooked on dropping motors, there is nothing like having a motor hanging around in your driveway.



Here is the PS belt from an 18 year old 964 with 120k miles

Arena993

I just went through this (or my mechanic did) Drop it. Especially for the chain covers. Plus everything is so easy to get to out of the car. Change your sound pad and clean up the engine compartment. Kind of a while you are in there approach.

Mike

Robin 993DX

Missed the timing chain cover gasket, would recommend dropping the engine for that.

Just did one on a 964

NP993

Drop it like it's hot.

cy7878

I'm too interested in getting my hands dirty to help out in exchange for some learning opportunity. I'm in OC, but willing to travel to LA.

nsully

Most of your list can be accomplished in a long day with the engine in place. You will need to remove the manifold, engine tin, and lower the engine a few engine a few inches. Even the lifters will be easy to access. The only task that will be problematic with the engine in place is replacing the chain cover gaskets.

On the other hand I see you have a few offers of help. To me that screams
"Drop It" if for no other reason than the adventure. I'm hoping someone in our area is thinking of doing an engine drop just so I can try to scrub in!

Either way, have fun and good luck,
Neil

johzev

What would be the difference in total time? I have a couple of minor oil leaks. I've been wondering what it would cost to have an indie drop the engine and do some clean up. I do not have the skill or time. In order to get Andreas' clean I need to stop the oil leaks first

boulderbobo

I just completed the all of the work you are looking to do. I dropped the engine. You might as well do the LWFW and clutch.

The work with the engine out is pretty straight forward. I can't imagine how difficult it would be to do the work described with the engine in. The difficulty factor has to be at least 2 and maybe 3 for some of the items.

GL!



Bob-

kjr914

VNTGSPD,
+1 on that. There's a few of us here in SD (kjr914, flastsixforme, cgfen) that I'm sure would show up to lend a hand! <--like this! Ok, AFTER the drop.

I was just asking that same question and I've only got to do plug wires....seems thats a pain with the engine in the car. Probably overkill just for wires.

Cheers,
Keith

jaholmes

I would drop it as well. I did pretty much the same things as well as a new clutch. The time you futz around putting 10 odd socket connectors to reach something you could have dropped the engine.

I did change my PS belt but probably didn't need it. Even looking at the one robin posted looked fine. I was going to do the cain covers but they weren't that bad compared to all of the extra stuff that needed to be removed to get them off.

VNTGSPD

Consider me convinced!

I was on the fence already and looking at Boulderbobo's thread had me thinking that I really don't want to bother with dropping it. But, all of the interest for helping hands makes this sound like a project that could be fun (in a masochistic sort of way I suppose). It'll be at least another month before I have everything in place but when I do, I will resurrect this thread and contact those that were interested in helping out or spectating to settle on a date.

For the planners out there, I live near the 5/57/22 freeways in Santa Ana.

Thanks again!

helmet155

I'd be happy to lend a hand, I have helped in engine drops twice, one 964 and one 993