120K Mile Service: Engine Drop or No?
#16
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VNTGSPD,
+1 on that. There's a few of us here in SD (kjr914, flastsixforme, cgfen) that I'm sure would show up to lend a hand! <--like this! Ok, AFTER the drop.
I was just asking that same question and I've only got to do plug wires....seems thats a pain with the engine in the car. Probably overkill just for wires.
Cheers,
Keith
+1 on that. There's a few of us here in SD (kjr914, flastsixforme, cgfen) that I'm sure would show up to lend a hand! <--like this! Ok, AFTER the drop.
I was just asking that same question and I've only got to do plug wires....seems thats a pain with the engine in the car. Probably overkill just for wires.
Cheers,
Keith
removing the engine won't help with that!
even changing the plugs isn't that bad, just do #4 exhaust LAST, that way you'll know all the tricks to get to difficult plugs!
cheers
Craig
#17
Burning Brakes
Yup, consider that thing dropped! Craig (cgfen) and I met you at the last OCR AX. I'd be glad to lend a hand if I can...heck with all the help offered we might not even need a jack as we'll be able to just lift the whole car off the ground!
Keep us posted
Keep us posted
#18
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Cheers.
#19
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Well, the time has come and I am preparing to drop the engine on my 993. My plan is to drop it Saturday Nov. 21st or 28th, do all of the maintenance, then re-install it the following weekend (Nov. 28th or Dec. 5th).
Soooo, all of you that expressed an interest in this project are welcome to chime in or send me a PM if you can make it. If you can, let me know what days work best and I'll try to make this as simple as possible.
The more the merrier as in this case I think many hands will make for light work.
Thanks!
David
Soooo, all of you that expressed an interest in this project are welcome to chime in or send me a PM if you can make it. If you can, let me know what days work best and I'll try to make this as simple as possible.
The more the merrier as in this case I think many hands will make for light work.
Thanks!
David
#21
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Bump for the weekend!
I'm tentatively planning on doing the engine drop this Saturday. If you think you can make it, I'd love to have the help! Just pm me or respond to this thread.
BTW, the car turned 120K miles on my way to Vegas for business on Monday. Sure beats flying!
I'm tentatively planning on doing the engine drop this Saturday. If you think you can make it, I'd love to have the help! Just pm me or respond to this thread.
BTW, the car turned 120K miles on my way to Vegas for business on Monday. Sure beats flying!
#22
cool pic... love it..... that's the way it should be taken.... but...I am having trouble figuring out where your tach needle is pointing.... I have never seen that before in my daily driving experiences....is that a real engine speed number?
#25
Burning Brakes
kjr, the "hardest" part about doing the plug wires is removing / re-installing the wire looms that are screwed into the fan cover.
removing the engine won't help with that!
even changing the plugs isn't that bad, just do #4 exhaust LAST, that way you'll know all the tricks to get to difficult plugs!
cheers
Craig
removing the engine won't help with that!
even changing the plugs isn't that bad, just do #4 exhaust LAST, that way you'll know all the tricks to get to difficult plugs!
cheers
Craig
Oh yeah, watch out for the vacuum lines coming out of the rubber elbows, I kept rechecking them as I went because they come out pretty easy.
Good luck, wish I was closer so I could come and play.
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Hello,
I did the same service a few weeks ago: There is absolutely NO need to drop the engine and I would recommend not to drop it.
Why should you ? disconnecting everything, having to reconnect everything, risking to break costly parts, etc...
Leave your engine where it is, take 2 days to change the parts you have planned, and then enjoy the ride again.
The day when you will really need to drop the engine is far away, don't bother with tis kind of task if you don't need.
I did the same service a few weeks ago: There is absolutely NO need to drop the engine and I would recommend not to drop it.
Why should you ? disconnecting everything, having to reconnect everything, risking to break costly parts, etc...
Leave your engine where it is, take 2 days to change the parts you have planned, and then enjoy the ride again.
The day when you will really need to drop the engine is far away, don't bother with tis kind of task if you don't need.
#30
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Time for an update and to rally the troops!
With the help of Evan Fullerton and Analogman on the board we were able to drop the engine about two weeks ago. The process was actually very smooth except that I forgot about the 32mm wrench I needed. After that slight delay, everything came out as planned.
Since then I have done the following:
clean off 120K miles of oil and road grime
new plugs, plug wires, caps & rotors
oil filters
trans oil
hydraulic lifters
aluminum valve covers/gaskets
chain cover gaskets
distributor belt
air filter
reinforce engine mount crossbar
bleed all hydraulic systems
Additional "surprises"
replace CV boots
replace fan (found scrapes on housing and fan is bent but bearings all feel good ) I painted housing and will monitor new fan for scrapes
remove SAI system (my check valve was heavily corroded)
Soooo, now I'm looking to put the engine back in on Saturday Dec. 5th, or Monday Dec. 7th. I'd like to do it Saturday afternoon but am open to whenever extra help is available. My goal is the get the engine mounted in the car but I will work as long as everyone else is interested. I can easily assemble the ancillary items myself over the following few days. If this is something that interests you, please reply with your availability or PM me.
Oh yeah, pictures to follow when I get my camera downloaded and get the images from Analogman as well.
Thanks!
With the help of Evan Fullerton and Analogman on the board we were able to drop the engine about two weeks ago. The process was actually very smooth except that I forgot about the 32mm wrench I needed. After that slight delay, everything came out as planned.
Since then I have done the following:
clean off 120K miles of oil and road grime
new plugs, plug wires, caps & rotors
oil filters
trans oil
hydraulic lifters
aluminum valve covers/gaskets
chain cover gaskets
distributor belt
air filter
reinforce engine mount crossbar
bleed all hydraulic systems
Additional "surprises"
replace CV boots
replace fan (found scrapes on housing and fan is bent but bearings all feel good ) I painted housing and will monitor new fan for scrapes
remove SAI system (my check valve was heavily corroded)
Soooo, now I'm looking to put the engine back in on Saturday Dec. 5th, or Monday Dec. 7th. I'd like to do it Saturday afternoon but am open to whenever extra help is available. My goal is the get the engine mounted in the car but I will work as long as everyone else is interested. I can easily assemble the ancillary items myself over the following few days. If this is something that interests you, please reply with your availability or PM me.
Oh yeah, pictures to follow when I get my camera downloaded and get the images from Analogman as well.
Thanks!