Way OT: Hardtail Mountain Bike Suggestions?
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Way OT: Hardtail Mountain Bike Suggestions?
Hey guys,
I know this is way OT, but I figure since we all have the same taste in cars i'm sure we all have the same tastes in other things in life as well. Well here..i'm talking about mountain bikes. Afterall, like cars, they have drivetrains, wheels, gears, and of course gets us from pt. A to pt. B. Anyway, since me and my gf's mountain bikes' were recently stolen from her garage (bastards ), we are in the market for new ones.
I had a '02 Cannondale hardtail (Terra - similar to a F400) that I really liked. I just started doing some research and since then the technology seems fairly unchanged. I'm leaning towards another C'dale (Caffeine F3) but was also looking at like mfgs: Specialized, Klein, maybe Trek. I'm trying to stay in the $1000 range. I test rode the F3, which I liked and Stumpjumper Comp this weekend. The Stumpjumper toptube seems a bit too long, whilst still a very nice bike but out of my price range @ $1600. I also heard good things about the smaller mfgs: Litespeed, Santa Cruz, Moots, but I think they are out of the price range as well. I've also been looking on Ebay and Craiglist for my stolen bike and also possibly for a good used bike but then the voided warranty comes into play.
I should also add that since I live in the city, I do about 90/10 - street/singletrack, hence the hardtail. I would think full suspension would be overkill.
Enough of my babbling, what do you mountain bikers ride/recommend? Pics would be great, we all love them!
Any comments, suggestions, or experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I know this is way OT, but I figure since we all have the same taste in cars i'm sure we all have the same tastes in other things in life as well. Well here..i'm talking about mountain bikes. Afterall, like cars, they have drivetrains, wheels, gears, and of course gets us from pt. A to pt. B. Anyway, since me and my gf's mountain bikes' were recently stolen from her garage (bastards ), we are in the market for new ones.
I had a '02 Cannondale hardtail (Terra - similar to a F400) that I really liked. I just started doing some research and since then the technology seems fairly unchanged. I'm leaning towards another C'dale (Caffeine F3) but was also looking at like mfgs: Specialized, Klein, maybe Trek. I'm trying to stay in the $1000 range. I test rode the F3, which I liked and Stumpjumper Comp this weekend. The Stumpjumper toptube seems a bit too long, whilst still a very nice bike but out of my price range @ $1600. I also heard good things about the smaller mfgs: Litespeed, Santa Cruz, Moots, but I think they are out of the price range as well. I've also been looking on Ebay and Craiglist for my stolen bike and also possibly for a good used bike but then the voided warranty comes into play.
I should also add that since I live in the city, I do about 90/10 - street/singletrack, hence the hardtail. I would think full suspension would be overkill.
Enough of my babbling, what do you mountain bikers ride/recommend? Pics would be great, we all love them!
Any comments, suggestions, or experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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You really can't go wrong with C'dale for a hardtail-unless you want to go up to titanium. I had an F700 years ago and sold it when I trade to a full bouncer (Specialized Enduro). I still miss that bike and now have a low end Giant (Boulder SE) for those time when most of the trip is on the road. (I should add that I have 5 1/2 (tantum) bikes so one of each is called for.
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I've been riding a 1996 Cannondale Killer V 900 (hardtail) for 11 years and couldn't be happier with it's performance.
On the flip-side, I am in the process of building a fixed-gear bike for commuting - based on a 1971 Motobacane alum frame, as minimal as possible. I don't like worrying about my bike when I'm at work and can't keep an eye on it.
Good luck with your search!
On the flip-side, I am in the process of building a fixed-gear bike for commuting - based on a 1971 Motobacane alum frame, as minimal as possible. I don't like worrying about my bike when I'm at work and can't keep an eye on it.
Good luck with your search!
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Its probably smart to stay away from suspension for the price range your looking at. With that said, I love my FS and its not that much of a weight penalty and makes riding more fun... I would check criagslist for something used. With 1k, you could get more options (high zoot hard or FS) in mtn bikes. The only problem is that many users on craigslist, think their bike is worth more than it actually is. There are good deals out there, but you have to pick thru the inflated ones. As far as manufacturers - at the 1k price range, they are all pretty much made in the same tiawanese factory - not much difference between them all...
This is an example of a local bike. Its a few hundred less than MSRP and NO TAXES!!
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/667891317.html
This is an example of a local bike. Its a few hundred less than MSRP and NO TAXES!!
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/667891317.html
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Its probably smart to stay away from suspension for the price range your looking at. With that said, I love my FS and its not that much of a weight penalty and makes riding more fun... I would check criagslist for something used. With 1k, you could get more options (high zoot hard or FS) in mtn bikes. The only problem is that many users on craigslist, think their bike is worth more than it actually is. There are good deals out there, but you have to pick thru the inflated ones. As far as manufacturers - at the 1k price range, they are all pretty much made in the same tiawanese factory - not much difference between them all...
Here's the F3 (Jet Black version) i'm leaning towards...
Link: http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/08/cusa/model-8FS3.html
The Rockhopper Comp Pro looks really nice too! Love the anodized Orange!
Link: http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkM...d=08Rockhopper
Thanks for everyone's feedback so far! Keep them coming!
#7
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I have the KLEIN Pulse hardtail bike that I had custom made back in 1995 when they were still a small town local company. You can still find them around on CL and at some of the dealers. Super-light, beautiful welds and paint finish work.
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If you're going to go hardtail, go retro! There's a lot of great deals out there on vintage US handmade bikes.
I've been riding Chris Chance's Wicked Fat Chance and the Titanium Fat Chance bikes for a long time. Never had a need to upgrade as 99% of my riding is singletrack.
The Wicked is truly old school with a rigid fork. The Ti has a newer Marzocchi fork and SRAM drivetrain. Plenty good to play in the dirt.
Get something different and you won't see another person riding the same bike as you!
-travis
I've been riding Chris Chance's Wicked Fat Chance and the Titanium Fat Chance bikes for a long time. Never had a need to upgrade as 99% of my riding is singletrack.
The Wicked is truly old school with a rigid fork. The Ti has a newer Marzocchi fork and SRAM drivetrain. Plenty good to play in the dirt.
Get something different and you won't see another person riding the same bike as you!
-travis
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IMHO, Cannondale is not always the best way to go. They are cutting edge, but you do all the R&D. Plus a lot of parts are Cannondale only, & can be expensive & hard to find. While the frames have a lifetime warrenty, if you ride hard, you might be using it.
Harlan, they still make Klein, they are not owned by Trek & made beside the Trek factory now. GREAT bikes, I have a custom Klein Road bike.
Really, it comes down to what you want & how much you want to spend! Any bike over $1500 is going to be a high quality bike. I have a Specialized S-Works hardtail, & LOVE it, but it's a few years old, & was $2800 when I got it.
Really, find a couple of good local shops, ride everything you can, in & around your budget & get the one that fits & feels the best for your kind of riding. You can upgrade lower quality parts, but you are stuck with the frame, so focus more on that being higher quality over a high end rear derailer.
FWIW, I used to race road & mountain, & worked part time in a big local bike shop. I wrenched & sold just about every kind of bike & rider. Get one that fits, & quality, it will break when you are 10 miles from the trail head, & walking sucks! Also tubless rims ROCK!!! If you have specific questions you can pm me. But my current product line knowledge is kind of dated as I stopped working @ the shop, & racing + got fat.
Harlan, they still make Klein, they are not owned by Trek & made beside the Trek factory now. GREAT bikes, I have a custom Klein Road bike.
Really, it comes down to what you want & how much you want to spend! Any bike over $1500 is going to be a high quality bike. I have a Specialized S-Works hardtail, & LOVE it, but it's a few years old, & was $2800 when I got it.
Really, find a couple of good local shops, ride everything you can, in & around your budget & get the one that fits & feels the best for your kind of riding. You can upgrade lower quality parts, but you are stuck with the frame, so focus more on that being higher quality over a high end rear derailer.
FWIW, I used to race road & mountain, & worked part time in a big local bike shop. I wrenched & sold just about every kind of bike & rider. Get one that fits, & quality, it will break when you are 10 miles from the trail head, & walking sucks! Also tubless rims ROCK!!! If you have specific questions you can pm me. But my current product line knowledge is kind of dated as I stopped working @ the shop, & racing + got fat.
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The technology has changed somuch in the last 10 years,it's amazing. If budget dictates a hardtail, then go for it at that price-point I don't think you'll see substantial differences among the bikes. If budget permits, get a full suspension, bike the difference is incredible.
I started out with a Stumpjumper (hardtail) and went to a Gary Fischer full-suspension and then to a much lighter Santa Cruz Superlight full-suspension that was custom built. I've beat the snot out of it for the last 6-7 years and may buy a new one in the near future.
I started out with a Stumpjumper (hardtail) and went to a Gary Fischer full-suspension and then to a much lighter Santa Cruz Superlight full-suspension that was custom built. I've beat the snot out of it for the last 6-7 years and may buy a new one in the near future.
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Do they sell Kona out in the East? You might check on those. Also, the Evil Empire bikes (Trek, Fisher, et al) are very good these days.
Or just get a Seven, Davidson, Moots...
Or just get a Seven, Davidson, Moots...
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Yup. They do sell Kona here, but I don't have too much experience with them. I always felt they were more full-suspension/downhill oriented, no?
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My wife has one of their lower end hardtails and it's been bulletproof. I would def have them on my list if I was buying an OTS hardtail.