Zithlord

I am buying a US 1996 993 C4S. What does it take to convert the turnsignals to Euro spec? Just the lens or the housing also? Any changes in the wiring?

I also have to change the speedo to Km/h, difficult jobb?

Where can I get the parts I need?

Any other changes/coversions I should make?

Best regards
John

Phil

why not just buy a euro 993?????????

Greg Bell

I assume you are not in the US. Why not get a Euro spec car in the first place? The gearing is quicker and the suspension is at ROW height, not SUV height.

Zithlord

Because I save 20-25% compared to Norway, and it is a 993C4S with turbo undercarridge and brakes(not very SUV like), they are rare and expencive over here. I would also like to supercharge it......

Any done this? (the questions in my first post)

John

jdistefa

The lens and the housing are one piece. It's an easy switch, but you have to buy lenses that are trimmed for the US spec bumperettes.

US cars have a speedometer that is in both miles and kilometers and hour, so you don't have to replace it (unless you want to).

993_Pilot

The longer signals will go on the U.S. Front Bumper, but their are holes behind where the bumperette's are. You can either change the front (and rear) bumpers to Euro spec. by replacing them, or filling the bumperette holes, and respraying them. Fog lights or 'S' ducts are the same for both. I believe that the Euro spec. cars have a turn indicator behind the wheel well on the front fender too. That might require some additional holes and wiring to install too, but I have never seen one apart. US spec. cars from 1996+ are OBD-II compliant, but I believe that the Euro Spec 993's are OBD-I. The speedo should be easy to change for a professional shop like No. Hollywood Speedometer. Individuals have done this, but I couldn't tell you what all is involved. Of course, there is the U.S. ride height and gearing as already mentioned. My guess is that there are differences in the ECU too, but I am not sure what they would be. A great resource would be Bill Verberg. Maybe he will see this thread and add to the list. There is also a lot of good info archived here at rennlist once you know what to search for. Good Luck !

AVoyvoda

Changing US spec to Euro spec is complicated. Here are some items:

No bumperettes on front or rear for ROW
Different rear centre section on rear Bumper.
Different rear bumper bar
Lighter bumper supports (ROW doesn’t have 5 mph collision requirement)
Different headlights and headlight surrounds
No sidelights for ROW
Sometimes different cigarette lighters
Different tail lights
Different front indicators
In-dash headlight height adjuster missing in US version
Rear foglights, standard on ROW (and required) missing in US versions
No third brake light for ROW (removal may require repainting rear deck or rear flanks)
Smaller fuel tanks for US cars
Different suspension (due to increased height for US cars)
Different gearboxes or ratios.
Different knee pads depending on model (i.e. US with 2 airbags, ROW sometimes with single airbag)
Different radios, US radios don’t work in Europe.
Most non US cars have the antenna in the windscreen
Different cats
Sometimes different engine management systems for US pollution requirement and fuel quality.
Different speedo (kms instead of mph)

Overall, its a big job and by the time you add the cost of after market parts, the price difference will be minimal.

tropheus

The only things which you have to change are the headlights and you have to add rear fog lights. Thats it! Nothing more to be in line with European requirements.

AVoyvoda

"The only things which you have to change are the headlights and you have to add rear fog lights. Thats it! Nothing more to be in line with European requirements."

True. Provided you don't mind going around with bumperettes and SUV height.

Flying Finn

FYI, also the side markers are needed.

Anyways, as already said, changes needed to comply with the aren't difficult. Fog lights are little complicated but IMO the most "brutal" is that you need to add those little side markers on front fenders (you need to drill holes for that).

Speedo is easy, just buy Euro speedo and plug it in although since the US speedo already has Km/h shown, it's not necessary.

tropheus

Flying Finn,

That you have to have the side markers is new to me. Who told you this?

V

My friend imported several cars from the US. You do need sidemarkers indeed.. Are there as many differences with the 993TT compared to a euro spec TT, or are there just as many differences as with the C4S??

Kolbjorn S

I suggest you call Espen at Autotuning in Fredrikstad, he can advice you further. But generally as pointed out above, there's alot of things that need doing and as you probably know already, second-hand 993 parts are not that easily obtained in Norway. If I were you I would rather consider a car from the European continent.

Flying Finn

The Finnish authorities. All EU cars need to have side markers. Otherwise no big deal but pain in the *** since you need to drill holes to the fenders.

Akerlie

Zithlord,

I just did what you are thinking of, PM me and i will give you the details.
Its not that complicated at all, and well worth the 20-25%

Regards

P.S. Oohh, and by the way, i did actually order the "euro rear bumper support part no" to make my car some grams lighter in the rear, and i got the same as i have on my US spec car (they where not changed to euro spec by previous owner). Maybe there is only one part no now ?