faster

First off, i want to commend Steve @ Rennsport Systems for his "unselfish" time he takes after spending all day dealing with Porsche cars and Porsche people to deal with it some more after 12 to 14 hours at the shop. He returned my calls twice to help me diagnose my problems. What a great person !!
Is this not the greatest place or what??


After recommendation i am seeking an "experienced" 993 alignment guy that knows his way around the car and the alignment rack. Has somebody here had their 993 aligned at Beechmont in Cincinatti after being lowered. i am not counting out Indy or Chicago either. i have had it done at my local dealership, but they just dont have the experience with lowered 993's, they have only had one other one that they mentioned and it took them a couple times to get it right. i am at 2 and still not correct. if you have a recommended individual please let me know. thanks

lucroberts

I'll do my first alignment on my lowered 993 this coming Saturday, but I'm a bit far from you: Miami, FL. By the way, did you get a stiffer steering after lowering ?

Wilder

It took me three times to get my cab right despite detailed instructions at a p-car specialist. My C4S is at the alignment shop as we speak for the second round at the same shop. This time the problem is not being able to dial the camber/toe that I want (don't ask!) despite being within the limit of what is achievable. I hear your pain.

One thing to consider is that these cars seem to be particularly sensitive to alignment settings and the smallest change can be felt by the driver, especially if you're picky and know exactly what you want. If this is the case, expecting to get it right on the first round might be high expectations.

Are you looking for advice on settings? What do you use the car for and/or what are you looking to get out of the car?

jimbo3

So, what's so tough about these shops getting it right the first time? My shop said that they could only get the rear camber down to 1.4 degrees instead of the 1 degree that I wanted and they could only get the K Toe to just within 2 units instead of the <1 unit spec. What's the trick? What don't these shops know?

Wilder

Beats me. I have the same problem. I want -2 degrees camber F and -1.7 R which is within range of what any 993 should be able to dial and they can only get around -1.5 all around. There's also too much toe on the RR wheel. They actually thought my frame was bent so they sent my car to a body shop to get measured. The car is fine so now it's back to the shop for a second try.

993c2cab

If michigan is not to far some here recommend: http://www.eurotecmotors.com/

good luck.

chris walrod

Possible camber is dependant upon ride height. From my experience, the most negative camber one can achieve, at or around ROW height, is in the area of -1.7 front and rear. Any more than that you'll need to go lower and/or install camber plates. Just about any toe settings can be accomplished.

faster

i was enlightened quite a bit about this topic. there are so many variables to include what modifications you have done to the car, how are you going to use it? street? track?, canyon carver?, the roads that you drive on is another. here in indiana there is a lot of crown in the road. (mine wants to creep to the crown). you are going to give up something when you modify the suspension, wether it be the ride, tire wear, etc. the biggest thing is finding a qualified individual that really knows from experience what he is doing with a modified suspension, especially the 993, they are in their own boat per say. one that takes it for a ride and knows whatever it takes to correct whatever quirk it might have and knows if you adjust something in one place it probably causes another adjustment to be made somewhere else. the master tech where i took mine just does not have the raw experience to diagnose my issues. where i live these cars are rare and modified ones are even rarer. my opinion are the small town porsche techs go to school and get the basics on how to do a stock suspension no issue alignments and when you throw in one that has been slammed and possibly handed some specs that has been used on other cars elsewhere in the country, they are lost when it has abnormal issues. like Steve say's if one could find the suspension guy on a 993 racing team with his own a-rack it would be done right the first time, he more than likely eats, breathes and dreams the stuff, and has the raw experience to diagnose / troubleshoot and fix the issue. my 2 cents.

faster

no, not that i recollect. i never noticed it. it was the tech that let go of the wheel after making a turn and noticed it didnt freewheel

faster

louis, thats funny, mine rr is the same and noticeable . looked at the spec sheet it shows .19 degrees on the left and .08 on the right

Wilder

They had problems with mine at RS+5mm. I've now told them to drop it to RS to see if they can dial more.

Wilder

Strange...sounds like our cars are having the same issues. Wonder if anyone has input on this. Mine is expected to be ready by tomorrow at noon. I'll let you know what they find.

jimbo3

I'm not trying to get more negative camber, I'm trying to get less. It's currently at 1.4 and and was trying to acheive 1.0. The car sits right at the bottom of ROW Sport and should be able to get down to 8/10th's at that height. The mechanic also was only able to get the KT to within 2 units instead of <1. How difficult is that?

Rick

I would suggest calling Terry Heath - he's in Indianapolis and services my Porsches including alignments. He's done a great job for me and has been in the P-car service business for a long time.

His contact info is as follows:Tell him Rick suggested you contact him...he'll take great care of you.

Best,

Rick

faster

thanks Rick, i will give him a call Monday. doing the Fair today with the girls. Sure glad its overcast and cooler.