Kaza

has anyone experienced with supercharging his 993. I am thinking about doing so on my C2S. My car is tiptronic. I did not want to go with the Turbo option because of cost and the Turbo tail which I don't like. I like the split grill I have on my 2S and would like to keep it stock looking. Any thought on this. Would it be worth. I am also looking for someone one has done this few years ago, so that we can learn about the long term issues, if any. TX. Ziad.

24FPS

tpc do a search... plenty of thoughts on it. pros & cons

fwiw: i kinda' like the idea.... would make for a nice sleeper.

Phil

speed cost money......how fast do you want to go?

cheap.........fast.....relaible............chose TWO..................

David in LA

sorry couldn't help it..."search" is your friend

pcar964

I don't think it's a good idea to add forced induction to an 11+:1 CR engine, without intercooling. The TPC has an intercooler option, which i would think is the way to go - which means you'll need that turbo tail...

Monique

Naaahhh. See above post. Bad idea. Sell your 2 S and buy a 993 TT. About same total outlay at the end and you will not destroy the value of your car.

IMO

Caveman

Talk to Mark Budgen who has done this to his tip without any new tail.

You won't destroy the car's value as if you don't like it or want to sell you take it off and resell it on e-bay leaving upgraded suspension and brakes which is no different to half the cars on this forum...

Atgani

Agree with Monique (but can also see Cavemans point of view) However whilst bolting on a supercharger is really the end of the line from a HP point of view (any further HP gains will need lower compression ratios/ larger intercoolers) With the TT, 408 hp is just the start, further HP can be added reasonbly "cheaply"
I'd personally go the TT route, but it depends on how "emotionally attached" you are to your current car.

Caveman

I think Atgani has a good point about the emotional involvement with the car. If you've been together for years and have been gradually fettling the car then it is difficult to let go plus it's the old I know what I have and do I want to risk starting all over again scenario. Unless we become super rich I don't see my wife allowing me to "waste" more money on upgrading to another car so I may jsut have to optimise what I have...

MPB993

Ziad,

I've had the tpc kit on my tip for 4 years now, 40k miles + upped boost a little but used water inj to control knock under the stock tail. The performance increase is as much down low which definitely helps with getting off the line in a tip. I put out about 320-330 rwhp which gets me around 10s 100mph and 12.7s 1/4 miles.

I've attached a pdf file from a gtech to give you some idea against an M3 and a 450hp x50 996 turbo

Would I do it again, yes but I wouldn't without some form of knock and oil temp control. It all comes down to what you want from the car.

I know this doesn't really help but at least you get to hear about it from someone who has done it.

BR, Mark.

TheOtherEric

What do you mean by knock control? I thought you got that covered with the water injection. Would an intercooler suffice? As for oil temp, have you considered the Ruf (Cargraphics) auxillary oil cooler? You can get it for approx $1000 and it works wonderfully. Not a difficult DIY if I can do it.
I have to disagree. $10k for a non-intercooled SC gets you halfway to 993TT horsepower, at less than half the price of upgrading to a 993TT. It won't destroy the value of your car, but you won't get it back either if you sell. Sure, if you can afford a TT then go that route.

MPB993

Yep, knock control was water injection, oil temp was just an over ride switch on the fan as we rarely get above 20c here in the uk. Keeps the gauge below 8-9pm. But I watch the knock counts from the ECU so know when to take my foot off the accelerator. When knock occurs, a rare thing, it happens at gear changes at throttle on-off-on.

Kaza

tx to you all. I had done a search, and the last time this topic came out was in June 2005. Also, all the threads had noothing to do with SC a tip. My thinking in a nut shell:
I have a clean car that i dont want to sell.
Was thinking about switching from tip to gear... but you all said no :-(
The I thougth that the best option is to SC, so that at least i can get the same power from start than a manual....also, a tip cannot handle more than 400hp (as far as I know)... thats the reasoning.
Mark, tx alot for the help. great to know that you like what you've done, and feel like I do...

24FPS

is it true that there is no "lag" w/ the tpc?

Caveman

Hi Rich,

Yes, there should be no lag though my understanding is that modern turbo installations have a lot less lag (if at all?) than they used to do. Otherwise we could all be getting cheap parts!

Cheers,

David