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looking at the bidder's history, i wonder if he's more of a "this is fun having the high bid as the car is gonna go for way more" kinda guy
Seems pretty risky if true for a handful of guys a few thousand away from winning it.
For me, it wouldn't be, - this is fun having the high bid and a couple grand away from winning it while my card is charged for 5k/capped commission and released a week or so later
Seems pretty risky if true for a handful of guys a few thousand away from winning it.
For me, it wouldn't be, - this is fun having the high bid and a couple grand away from winning it while my card is charged for 5k/capped commission and released a week or so later
All cars are worth the most when the people that desired them as kids can afford them as adults.
The mid-90's cars that were desired by guys like me who are now in our 30's probably have another 20+ years to appreciate before they are "too old" like muscle cars that started coming back down. Then again, old Ferraris and historic race cars haven't really depreciated because they're timeless and air-cooled 911's might be in the same category - especially the design of the 993.
My 991.2 GT3 is not really a better car than my 993 except that I bought it new and know who farted in it from day 1.
The seller reports that a pair of accidents resulted in repairs to the right-front and right-rear corners, and the Carfax report lists damage to the right-rear corner in September 2003.
I'll say it like many others have before - there's little left about being a car enthusiast who uses a widebody 993 (or 964) for that matter as a car to have regular fun with, seeing how they've become investment vehicles (figuratively, and literally).
As aspiring enthusiasts, I bought my C2S for 30k in 2016 and my brother his C4S for 20k (yes, a driving clean title car that needed engine work) in 2019.
Having lived with two of these intimately, seeing folks plop down 100-150-200k feels laughable. It's just funny play money on a screen for a bunch of well to do folks. Was fun while it lasted.
I'll say it like many others have before - there's little left about being a car enthusiast who uses a widebody 993 (or 964) for that matter as a car to have regular fun with, seeing how they've become investment vehicles (figuratively, and literally).
As aspiring enthusiasts, I bought my C2S for 30k in 2016 and my brother his C4S for 20k (yes, a driving clean title car that needed engine work) in 2019.
Having lived with two of these intimately, seeing folks plop down 100-150-200k feels laughable. It's just funny play money on a screen for a bunch of well to do folks. Was fun while it lasted.
Sorry, trying to understand something. You and your brother bought a 993 C2S in 2016 for $20k and a C4S in 2019 for $30k?
If true, you found things in the market I have never even come close to seeing in the five or six years I've been scouring the 993 market.
Sorry, trying to understand something. You and your brother bought a 993 C2S in 2016 for $20k and a C4S in 2019 for $30k?
If true, you found things in the market I have never even come close to seeing in the five or six years I've been scouring the 993 market.
The other way around - C2S for 30k and C4S for 20k.
now... the C2S needed about 15k of work and the C4S about 20k to be roadworthy... but yes. These cars had both been drivers in the midwest, used as cars, and so we continued using them as such too.
Now the C4S he's got is identical in condition to this one (mileage, engine work, accidents) so all in all that's a 100% appreciation in about 3 years for his car - but no chance in hell he'd even sell it for that much.
The other way around - C2S for 30k and C4S for 20k.
now... the C2S needed about 15k of work and the C4S about 20k to be roadworthy... but yes. These cars had both been drivers in the midwest, used as cars, and so we continued using them as such too.
Now the C4S he's got is identical in condition to this one (mileage, engine work, accidents) so all in all that's a 100% appreciation in about 3 years for his car - but no chance in hell he'd even sell it for that much.
You guys won the lotto. Make that 8-10 years we haven't seen those prices, even for beater cars.
I wish I would agree, but I didn't like anything about my ownership experience. Perhaps it's because I've also been daily driving my 997.2 since 2016 as well - but everything you could imagine the $30k car needed it did. The entire interior was ripped out down to the sheetmetal because of mold.
The $20k car - sheared shift fork, top end rebuild to start, and then a few more grand for rust repair.
There's no free lunch - but assume we were both $50k into each of those cars... at the time I still would've rather parked my $ into a driver 997.1 GT3 / 997.2. Obviously those days are gone... but my 997.2 is still around
and for fun... here's a photo of the $30k car when I found it
06-09-2022, 07:47 PM
