Jack Baruth on journalistic pressure and the new GTS
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Jack Baruth on journalistic pressure and the new GTS
For those who never read Jack Baruth was a Road and Track editor . He is a legit Porsche owner and club racer . He was fired because he refused to tow the party line . Despite his 300K salary (high in that field ) he could not take the BS anymore and wanted to give genuine views .
I started reading why . Theres more than what I posted by the gist is that all the gushing journalist reviews are more like advertisements by guys paid to write them . The moment one wants to step out of the box he is silenced .
Braruth wrote may great pieces . One in particular is about his "forever car" (a 993) that he plans to one day leave behind for his son to becomes his keepsake . He writes with heart and dedication .
Here is the first snippet ..https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...ent=post_title
This is where his exodus began .
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How did I get excommunicated? Simple, and it was 100% my fault.
I wrote a review of the Panamera Turbo when it came out and Porsche PR "suggested" that I rewrite it according to some talking points they had. Those talking points appeared in pretty much every review but mine.
EVERY outlet in the business is receiving huge pressure to write positive things about EVs, carbon credits, Mobility As A Service
2) He discusses his authentic views about the 992.2 GTS . https://www.avoidablecontact.com/p/w...thread-porsche
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Yes, it will be quick in a straight line, but Porsche would be unwise to stake any portion of the 911’s reputation on that in the Plaid and Lucid era. Their obsession with trivialities like “smog at full throttle” will end up killing these cars stone dead, both in the “does anybody want to buy one” sense and the “it’s 61 months old, can anyone fix this daughterboard failure?” sense.
I hate it, but I’m not the customer. The person who buys this car will be primarily interested in idling it up and down some 25mph city street for the purpose of getting as much envy-based validation as possible until a Ferrari shows up.
I started reading why . Theres more than what I posted by the gist is that all the gushing journalist reviews are more like advertisements by guys paid to write them . The moment one wants to step out of the box he is silenced .
Braruth wrote may great pieces . One in particular is about his "forever car" (a 993) that he plans to one day leave behind for his son to becomes his keepsake . He writes with heart and dedication .
Here is the first snippet ..https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...ent=post_title
This is where his exodus began .
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How did I get excommunicated? Simple, and it was 100% my fault.
- I repeatedly refused to let Porsche and other automakers edit my reviews and tests. Most autowriters extend this "prior review" to the "OEMs" as a natural courtesy. So I was taken off most press lists and blacklisted at most magazines.
I wrote a review of the Panamera Turbo when it came out and Porsche PR "suggested" that I rewrite it according to some talking points they had. Those talking points appeared in pretty much every review but mine.
EVERY outlet in the business is receiving huge pressure to write positive things about EVs, carbon credits, Mobility As A Service
2) He discusses his authentic views about the 992.2 GTS . https://www.avoidablecontact.com/p/w...thread-porsche
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Thanks, I hate it
“2025 Porsche 911 GTS Hybrid Is Nothing Like A Prius”, bleats Car and Driver. “The 2025 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Hybrid Won’t Ruin The 911”, Motor Trend assures us. With this kind of early narrative-boosting, one can only assume the 992.2 GTS is a total piece of ****. For $166,895, a price that probably includes vinyl seats and omits floormats, you get a genuine Rube Goldberg engine layout. Let’s cover the highlights:- The turbo is now driven by a 27-hp electric motor. At high revs, it turns into a generator to reclaim battery power, which is then put into the hybrid transmission.
- Fuel mixture is held at the most efficient ratio throughout, so at high speeds and temperatures they just retard the ignition to cut power. This decreases emissions by approximately 1/100th of what the average scooter in Thailand is putting out as we speak. (Figures are approximate.)
- The long-awaited (by nobody, maybe “long-dreaded” is better) sandwich electric-motor-and-8-speed-PDK can provide 54 horsepower whenever necessary, drawing on a 60-pound lithium-ion battery
- Weight rises to 3,536 pounds, a full 236 pounds below a 383 Super Bee but a quarter-ton above what the early 991 weighed without any of this crap.
- Burgerkingring time drops to 7 minutes and 16.9 seconds. C/D expects a quarter-mile in the high tens after all their correction.
- Oh, and the water pump is now inside the engine. That’s a great idea.
Yes, it will be quick in a straight line, but Porsche would be unwise to stake any portion of the 911’s reputation on that in the Plaid and Lucid era. Their obsession with trivialities like “smog at full throttle” will end up killing these cars stone dead, both in the “does anybody want to buy one” sense and the “it’s 61 months old, can anyone fix this daughterboard failure?” sense.
I hate it, but I’m not the customer. The person who buys this car will be primarily interested in idling it up and down some 25mph city street for the purpose of getting as much envy-based validation as possible until a Ferrari shows up.
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Jack is the automotive journalism equivalent of Lyndon LaRouche.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a stint. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a stint. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
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Jack is the automotive journalism equivalent of Lyndon LaRouche.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a brief period. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a brief period. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
I tell you what .. I will give it to you. .
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I believe in transparency so I'll be forthright about something: The average automaker makes low to mid five figures. I earned between $225k and $305k a year in total comp during my time with Hagerty. There are very few jobs in the business now that pay that kind of money. Maybe five of which I can think. I'm not really eligible for any of them
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Jack is the automotive journalism equivalent of Lyndon LaRouche.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a stint. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a stint. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
Ad hominems dont work .
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Without driving the car, it's hard to say how good (or bad) a car the 992.2 really is.
That said, he's entertaining to read and no one can argue that these things are not getting too damn heavy.
PDK has been effectively non-serviceable since its inception, so that ship sailed a long time ago. We're approaching the era of the disposable car. Even now, mechanics aren't really "fixing" things as opposed to just running codes and replacing parts wholesale.
I don't romanticize the old stuff - there are some serious compromises with the air cooled cars but I've been able to fix 75% of the problems I've run into with mine and I'm not remotely skilled as a mechanic. If he's coming from that perspective, then these new supercomputer 911s are definitely not going to be appealing.
That said, he's entertaining to read and no one can argue that these things are not getting too damn heavy.
PDK has been effectively non-serviceable since its inception, so that ship sailed a long time ago. We're approaching the era of the disposable car. Even now, mechanics aren't really "fixing" things as opposed to just running codes and replacing parts wholesale.
I don't romanticize the old stuff - there are some serious compromises with the air cooled cars but I've been able to fix 75% of the problems I've run into with mine and I'm not remotely skilled as a mechanic. If he's coming from that perspective, then these new supercomputer 911s are definitely not going to be appealing.
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EVERY outlet in the business is receiving huge pressure to write positive things about EVs, carbon credits, Mobility As A Service
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I thought that he was a contributor for Road & Track for a stint. If he managed to briefly become one of the editors, those folks aren't making $300k/year. In reality, it's tough to make a full-time job out of being an automotive editor, let alone journalist. It's a job that you do, because you love cars.
https://www.salary.com/research/comp...y?cjid=8702716
”What is the average salary for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track in the United States?
Based on our data, it appears that the optimal compensation range for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track is between $152,836 and $193,959, with an average salary of $159,252. ”
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Funny, I hear, and read, just the opposite. Many more “negative” slants on EV’s, than positive one. For one thing, most old time reviewers, that have been reviewing cars for decades, have very little experience with EV’s. Often, I’ve found that these reviewers fall back on what they know best
Just follow the money. Most advertisers and consumers are ICE based, not EV based. So writing a negative review of an EV car has very few consequences in terms of lost revenue.
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You are correct. just more spin from the OP.
https://www.salary.com/research/comp...y?cjid=8702716
”What is the average salary for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track in the United States?
Based on our data, it appears that the optimal compensation range for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track is between $152,836 and $193,959, with an average salary of $159,252. ”
https://www.salary.com/research/comp...y?cjid=8702716
”What is the average salary for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track in the United States?
Based on our data, it appears that the optimal compensation range for an Editor-In-Chief at Road & Track is between $152,836 and $193,959, with an average salary of $159,252. ”
Try his points .
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Just to show how much Porsches meant to him .. this is piece he wrote about his "forever car " . Its. a Porsche 911 . It was written while he was at Road and Track .
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...h-porsche-911/
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RE: “I quoted him”
Therein lies your problem. No verification. Further, if you don’t know it to be true, then don’t include it…as it adds nothing to your story. Just some friendly advice - Most things on the internet are opinions, exaggerations or out and out lies.
Really don’t care about his point. We already have good reason to believe that he is either a liar, or an exaggerator. I use that same metric when choosing who to vote for. Once a liar, always a liar.
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RE: “I quoted him”
Therein lies your problem. No verification. Further, if you don’t know it to be true, then don’t include it…as it adds nothing to your story. Just some friendly advice - Most things on the internet are opinions, exaggerations or out and out lies.
Really don’t care about his point. We already have good reason to believe that he is either a liar, or an exaggerator. I use that same metric when choosing who to vote for. Once a liar, always a liar.
Therein lies your problem. No verification. Further, if you don’t know it to be true, then don’t include it…as it adds nothing to your story. Just some friendly advice - Most things on the internet are opinions, exaggerations or out and out lies.
Really don’t care about his point. We already have good reason to believe that he is either a liar, or an exaggerator. I use that same metric when choosing who to vote for. Once a liar, always a liar.
Anyway, this is pretty evident considering most Porsche reviews sound the same. The "sweet spot" GTS.
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Porsche can't do anything about the government mandates, the engineering has to follow along or they can't produce an ICE car at all. Sure it could be lighter but where can you drop pounds? The 994 will surely have a smaller/lighter battery unit of identical capacity, so they can trim some weight there.
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Oh, and not all lies are equal. I sometimes “lie” to my wife when she asks how dinner was….that’s not even in the same universe as pushing the “Big Lie” for nearly 4 years.
Furthermore, most politicians occasionally lie (or exaggerate) from time to time. Everybody knows that. But only one politician in my lifetime, that I know of, is a habitual liar. Every time he opens his mouth, lies spew out. Over 20,000 documented lies, and counting. Some more serious than others. But lies, none the less.
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