aggie57

perhaps this falls into the category of a ‘tease’

911dude41

The difference is not that great and it mainly comes from responsiveness. That 2nd gear 30 mph roll was the perfect roll race for the .2 against the older car to showcase the new tech.

Still though, at a tax of more weight on the .2 and seemingly impossible future tuning capabilities its a loss in my book as someone who performance modifies their cars.

The newer car sounds better inside the cabin IMO.

To the guy who said rival the Turbo S... A 992.1 Turbo S would still absolutely decimate the new GTS in a drag race on "ancient" turbochargers. That same channel in has hit 10.1-10.2 in the TTS. A 0.7 second gap is massive.

992.2 GTS is still nice, interesting, but meh.

GTS440

I'm still not convinced, In the real world for road use, for the amount of power increase it doesnt seem much quicker as i suspect the .1 has more power than Porsche quote. I'd take the 992.1 and the 50kg less mass under braking which is actually more like 60kg if you add the rear seats.

AlfaQV2019

The 992.1still has rear seats and the 992.2 had them deleted in this drag race. You can see seatbelts in the back of the 992.1. Cheeky.

jstap808

LMFAOOOO.

Frankly who cares about speed when those seats are just plain ugly. I mean just look at it, clearly a step down from the .1

inthesticks

Does 0-60 really matter anymore? (I mean besides to C8 owners and kids with tuned up nissans). Electric cars have shown that we can do 0-60 as fast as safely possible in a fancy golf cart.. At what point does this stop becoming a thing, and we start focusing on the elements that actually differentiate sports cars, like top speed, handling, breaking, track times, etc..

Jimmy-D

It comes down to this:

For those that missed out on the .1 and they want to build their own car they will line up for the .2 and will also have to pony up more money to attain it. Porsche certainly know this.

But for those that own a .1 I do not see any reason why one would swap there .1 for a .2. I do not see it as an upgrade because it can beat the .1 in a quarter mile.

CZS

I agree that 0-60 is an antiquated metric. I'd still argue that the 1/4 mile is quite relevant though. Gives a good indication of a cars ability to get off the line, trap speed correlates well with WHP and aerodynamics, weight and gearing all play a roll too. Provides a decent benchmark, IMO

TheDrivenGarage

I ordered PCCBs on my 992.1 GTS and I was curious about this, as I noticed the calipers did not look to be the same as the Turbo S. I can’t get back to that page, but the Turbo S has more pistons and a slightly larger Carbon disc than the Carrera Carbon Disc package. That’s also why the Turbo Carbon Ceramic Brakes are more expensive of an upgrade (about $600 more if I remember correctly) than the Carrera Carbon Brakes.

Was a bit bummed because for the upgrade cost, I wanted all the performance possible. Cool to see the 992.2 get them.

slc4s

will be interesting to see what happens when the AWD cars come out. .2GTS was stuggling for grip here more than the .1. On the AWD cars they'll be able to use more torque sooner so you may see even a bigger gap between a .1 and .2 Carrera4GTS.

1/2 second in the quarter mile aint nothin. The .2 is going to be a noticeably quicker car.

R N M

It’s funny how in first race - the 992.2 barely won and then they had to show that it was clear winner in the other races, just strange as Porsches typically are very consistent and it’s usually idiot proof with launch control.

Also what happens if battery is not at full charge then I guess 992.1 will be the winner 😂

992.1 GTS was plenty fast - it needed improvement in engine / exhaust sound and more engagement. Instead we got more tech and incremental power bump but only at full charge.

r4mi5awi

What's interesting is Porsche states same 0-60 time for both .2 GTS and 4 GTS. Wonder why?

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fantom557

Porsche needed to jump into the hybrid world. They are doing it in stages my guess. They needed a reason to buy or upgrade so they came up with the T hybrid. Besides the cosmetic changes they had to justify why the consumer should buy or upgrade to the newer model with performance. I have found Porsche has always been late to the game with some changes with the 911 series. For instance the wireless phone charger in the center compartment has been available in my other cars for a long time. The digital dash was first seen in the Taycan a few years ago it made sense for them to do it for the 911 from a cost point of view. I have a traga 4 gts scheduled delivery end of September I took the slot because I had a chance to by a manual and something a little different from coupe’s. As far as the .2 I like to wait a year until I move to next model because I know there will be some kinks with it. The performance difference I don’t care about, I am not racing or earning a living from this car. I buy them because I enjoy driving them. The .2 is like buying a new iPhone it’s just an update!

Hunky

We need some professionally generated acceleration metrics of the 992.2 on a proper surface for accurate, optimal, legit test results and not videos of hillbilly style drag races like we did in high school.
This guys videos are always hard to watch and generally nothing more than entertainment hosted by an obnoxious *** clown who giggles and screams into his handheld radio like a 10 yr old little girl.

yrralis1

They have doubts .....https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca...eline-44504881

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Porsche Chief Financial Officer Lutz Meschke was quoted by Automotive News on Thursday casting some doubts.

"There's a lot of discussions right now around the end of the combustion engine," Meschke said in Singapore. "I think it could be delayed."


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From Automotive News Europe:
A slowdown in EV orders has thrown into question whether the European Union is on track for the phaseout, which represents one of the most ambitious efforts to curb carbon emissions.The region's consumers have been put off by a lack of reliable charging networks, persistently high prices and the rollback of EV incentives. The U.K. has already postponed its planned ban of new gasoline and diesel models by five years to 2035.While manufacturers of premium and luxury EVs can work without subsidies, cutting them from the volume segment is wrong, said Meschke, who spoke on the sidelines of the unveiling of Porsche's long-delayed electric Macan SUV.
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The largest piece of the puzzle is likely public opinion, however. Despite years of the industry trying to assure drivers that EV costs would be even to combustion vehicles by 2025, we’re not even close to that becoming a reality. Electric automobiles tend to be purchased by wealthier individuals as a secondary vehicle and (with notable exceptions) trade at much higher prices. They also depreciate more quickly, making them less attractive to the kind of people that care about resale values.


I think some dont realize the cultural philosophy taking place in Europe . For instance the Olympics are being held in Paris , France . The Mayor of Paris wants to have a "green Olympics " with no AC for athletes . The USA told then well basically Scr^w you . We aren't sweating because you want to be green . They are bringing their own portable AC units
.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/...ris-rcna158415

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