A dilemma...
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A dilemma...
Hello my friends!
I've only recently got a Porsche, or rather treated myself to the new Cayenne. Hybrid with the lightweight package, sports exhaust system.
I really like the car. I'm just realising that I'm driving less and less with the electric drive because the sound of the engine is important to me 😁 I use the car 95% of the time on my own. As a family car, there is a Toureg for my wife and daughter.
Now I'm thinking of swapping the Toureg for one of the new 911 4 GTS. At 10k kilometers per year, it will be used as a year-round vehicle. Our winters are long and last about 5 months, 2 of which are snowy. 911 suitable as a year-round vehicle? What is your opinion on this?
What do you think about the value retention of the new GTS?
Holding period approx. 2-3 years; company leasing.
(Here in Austria it would be around 260.000€)
Thank you
I've only recently got a Porsche, or rather treated myself to the new Cayenne. Hybrid with the lightweight package, sports exhaust system.
I really like the car. I'm just realising that I'm driving less and less with the electric drive because the sound of the engine is important to me 😁 I use the car 95% of the time on my own. As a family car, there is a Toureg for my wife and daughter.
Now I'm thinking of swapping the Toureg for one of the new 911 4 GTS. At 10k kilometers per year, it will be used as a year-round vehicle. Our winters are long and last about 5 months, 2 of which are snowy. 911 suitable as a year-round vehicle? What is your opinion on this?
What do you think about the value retention of the new GTS?
Holding period approx. 2-3 years; company leasing.
(Here in Austria it would be around 260.000€)
Thank you
Last edited by Mike2000; 06-19-2024 at 04:02 PM.
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A 911 is a fine year round driver. With a set of winter wheels, it’s genuinely entertaining. The only thing that will hold it back is ground clearance. It’s fine with a couple of inches on the ground — I’ve done lots of driving on unplowed roads with fresh snow. More than that, the car starts to become a plow.
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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GTS is the best model in the line at value retention (outside of GT3 series). It's popular
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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911s are designed and made in Germany which is plenty snowy so yes, they are designed to be driven in the snow - even 2WD variants let alone a 4S which will be awesome in the snow with the right tires.
a 911 GTS will hold its value better than most cars but really, who cares? Drive it and enjoy it. We aren't going to live forever and life is about experiences. Get the car and go create new experiences.
a 911 GTS will hold its value better than most cars but really, who cares? Drive it and enjoy it. We aren't going to live forever and life is about experiences. Get the car and go create new experiences.
Last edited by AlterZgo; 06-19-2024 at 08:25 PM.
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I drive my 911T year around. Set of winter tires in the winter and you good to go. Lots of fun for sure
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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I'm also in Austria and use my Boxster all year around, driving in the snow to go skiing and for fun drives on the passes that stay open. You'll have no problems in the GTS. For value retention, the prices here for all Porsche cars are rock steady with great residuals, a quick look on Autoscout shows supply is limited and demand is high.
I say go for it, you only live once!
I say go for it, you only live once!
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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I’d say a 911 or Boxster can be good for up to 5” of snow.
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Hmmm, so you're thinking of going from an SUV to a 992 GTS? Do you really know what you're getting into? How are the roads there? Do you know how harsh the ride is compared to an SUV or even a 992S? Do you know how much noisier the cockpit is? If this will be your year-round commuter car, I think the GTS may be the wrong car and you'd be much happier in an S. Have you ever owned a sports car?
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Your wife would be ok with giving up her Touareg and switching to the Cayenne? (Sounds like she only likes her Touareg, since you mentioned you are the only driver of the Cayenne).
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I personally wouldn’t want to daily any 911 unless my commute includes no traffic and amazing roads.
I think Panamera would be better if you are sitting in traffic, potholes etc.
I think Panamera would be better if you are sitting in traffic, potholes etc.
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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Hmmm, so you're thinking of going from an SUV to a 992 GTS? Do you really know what you're getting into? How are the roads there? Do you know how harsh the ride is compared to an SUV or even a 992S? Do you know how much noisier the cockpit is? If this will be your year-round commuter car, I think the GTS may be the wrong car and you'd be much happier in an S. Have you ever owned a sports car?
Alternatively - just get a Cayenne S with the sports exhaust.
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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The jury is still out on how the new hybrid GTS will due. If by some miracle, there are no reliability/recall issues then maybe that will continue to be the case but it’s not a certainty.
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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Worry not about your winter. With a set of snows, the only thing to be mindful of is if there is over a few inches on the road. You don't really want to be a plow.
I used my C4S all winter. Was a lot of fun and took it out in a few snowstorms. Wife wanted to get me committed:
I used my C4S all winter. Was a lot of fun and took it out in a few snowstorms. Wife wanted to get me committed:
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Mike2000 (06-20-2024)
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Yes - women usually have a massive influence on car purchases - but sometimes I'm just hard of hearing.
After the wife drives less than 1000km a year (office 2km away) I would always take the Toureg or the Cayenne for long distances of 200km or more.
I currently have the Burmester in the Cayenne and am someone who listens to music all the time. Since the Cayenne, however, I've had the sports exhaust system on Sport Plus 90% of the time. I've never had a sports car myself. My family has - Ferrari 366, Triumph TR5, Austin-Healey, etc... there's also sound - love it. I also like a hard chassis. At 47, I still have no problems with that ;-)
I live in the mountains with beautiful, well-paved mountain roads, winding...
After the wife drives less than 1000km a year (office 2km away) I would always take the Toureg or the Cayenne for long distances of 200km or more.
I currently have the Burmester in the Cayenne and am someone who listens to music all the time. Since the Cayenne, however, I've had the sports exhaust system on Sport Plus 90% of the time. I've never had a sports car myself. My family has - Ferrari 366, Triumph TR5, Austin-Healey, etc... there's also sound - love it. I also like a hard chassis. At 47, I still have no problems with that ;-)
I live in the mountains with beautiful, well-paved mountain roads, winding...
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