992.2 ~25% Fewer Customers?
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Big difference between a ‘mild hybrid’ and a vehicle that plugs in and runs on electric power. ‘Mild hybrid’ drivetrains are the next evolution of the ICE (of which Porsche is frankly late to the game); getting rid of archaic belts and 12v architecture, and using electric torque for good to compensate for turbochargers’ deficiencies, seamlessly integrate start/stop functionality, and run ancillaries. Look at it that way and maybe you won’t be so bitter.
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Sure, same as it ever was. Was true with the 992.1, will be true again. Hybrid or no hybrid Carreras were never going change that. The only flickering of light is Porsche really needs to juice its profits with products like these, build more of them, and stop letting dealers take such a large slice of the market value. Literally eating Porsche’s profit margins. I don’t expect anything silly like a crack down on adm itself or dealer games, but I do expect much higher msrp and more total units built. The GT products are clearly mispriced in the USA.
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All you flat earth / hell no / 'old men' really need to rent a PDK car for a day and give it a proper thrashing on road, track & traffic. Then write your book report how your agricultural MT is preferable, and how you're not missing the integrated e-diff an all the other stuff that Porsche needed to castrate from the build just so you had something to do with your right hand and left foot. Then send it to Porsche product planning so they can incorporate all your feedback from the 1940's... go. 
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Sure, same as it ever was. Was true with the 992.1, will be true again. Hybrid or no hybrid Carreras were never going change that. The only flickering of light is Porsche really needs to juice its profits with products like these, build more of them, and stop letting dealers take such a large slice of the market value. Literally eating Porsche’s profit margins. I don’t expect anything silly like a crack down on adm itself or dealer games, but I do expect much higher msrp and more total units built. The GT products are clearly mispriced in the USA.
Hopefully there will be a T but it will be much less powerful than a 992.1 S/GTS.
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Don’t look now, but the X5 and X6 are ‘mild hybrids’, just like the upcoming 911 GTS.
Big difference between a ‘mild hybrid’ and a vehicle that plugs in and runs on electric power. ‘Mild hybrid’ drivetrains are the next evolution of the ICE (of which Porsche is frankly late to the game); getting rid of archaic belts and 12v architecture, and using electric torque for good to compensate for turbochargers’ deficiencies, seamlessly integrate start/stop functionality, and run ancillaries. Look at it that way and maybe you won’t be so bitter.
Big difference between a ‘mild hybrid’ and a vehicle that plugs in and runs on electric power. ‘Mild hybrid’ drivetrains are the next evolution of the ICE (of which Porsche is frankly late to the game); getting rid of archaic belts and 12v architecture, and using electric torque for good to compensate for turbochargers’ deficiencies, seamlessly integrate start/stop functionality, and run ancillaries. Look at it that way and maybe you won’t be so bitter.
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Umm there is a big difference actually as with 992.1 you could have purchased an S or GTS with a manual. You didn’t need to get a Turbo or GT3 which are nowhere in same price range especially if you add on ADMs.
Hopefully there will be a T but it will be much less powerful than a 992.1 S/GTS.
Hopefully there will be a T but it will be much less powerful than a 992.1 S/GTS.
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So ? Wait a few more years for a T. These cars are very durable. Nobody is forcing you to sell the one you have now. It’ll last.
A manual Turbo makes me salivate like frying up bacon. A baby sports classic ? More modern, less heritage navel gazing, no limited edition premium ? Take my money. Not worried about my luck.
A manual Turbo makes me salivate like frying up bacon. A baby sports classic ? More modern, less heritage navel gazing, no limited edition premium ? Take my money. Not worried about my luck.
SA: "Look, you're gonna be getting the 2nd or 3rd GT3 coming in, and you're already getting a Targa, so with those and your RS6 your garage will be pretty complete."
Me: "... and that rumored manual Turbo?"
SA: "All my clients will be wanting that, and I'm not sure I'll be able to meet demand."
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Umm where were you when the 992.1 launched or do you not remember that the S wasn't available with a manual at launch in 2019 and the GTS wasn't launched until 2021? Porsche has always staggered their trim and equipment launches. The only thing different about the .2 is that they have launched the GTS with the base first which breaks tradition. While I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche will only offer a manual in GT and exclusive models going forward, we don't know for certain yet what other trims will or won't get a manual and probably won't until 2026.
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I never thought the day would come that BMW offered more manuals than Porsche.
I still don’t get how BMW can still sell all ICE M cars while 911 went hybrid especially considering the fact that the Porsche ppl always stated they will keep 911s ICE and manual as long as possible.
I still don’t get how BMW can still sell all ICE M cars while 911 went hybrid especially considering the fact that the Porsche ppl always stated they will keep 911s ICE and manual as long as possible.
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All you flat earth / hell no / 'old men' really need to rent a PDK car for a day and give it a proper thrashing on road, track & traffic. Then write your book report how your agricultural MT is preferable, and how you're not missing the integrated e-diff an all the other stuff that Porsche needed to castrate from the build just so you had something to do with your right hand and left foot. Then send it to Porsche product planning so they can incorporate all your feedback from the 1940's... go.
Does that count or do I need to get a 992.2 to learn the same (very expensive) lesson?
I try to never say never but can certainly say “highly unlikely”. At least the Miata still has a manual available. I had one of those the same year I bought the TT (‘15). It was a lot of fun.
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Ordered a 991.1 TT and had it about a year before trading it. Did not like the PDK. At all. Simply not as enjoyable to drive. For me.
Does that count or do I need to get a 992.2 to learn the same (very expensive) lesson?
I try to never say never but can certainly say “highly unlikely”. At least the Miata still has a manual available. I had one of those the same year I bought the TT (‘15). It was a lot of fun.
Does that count or do I need to get a 992.2 to learn the same (very expensive) lesson?
I try to never say never but can certainly say “highly unlikely”. At least the Miata still has a manual available. I had one of those the same year I bought the TT (‘15). It was a lot of fun.
