After 2 laps with .2 GTS which performance do you expect?
#31
You may very well be correct. And agree. We'll know once they are being tested. Hoping to see some reviewers take them on a track and see how long it takes and what it does to subsequent lap times. I'm sure guys like Savage Geese and others will do this. And as mentioned before, am eager to see a video on it from Engineering Explained. I'm hopeful that it will be positive, but I'm also a realist.
#32
You may very well be correct. And agree. We'll know once they are being tested. Hoping to see some reviewers take them on a track and see how long it takes and what it does to subsequent lap times. I'm sure guys like Savage Geese and others will do this. And as mentioned before, am eager to see a video on it from Engineering Explained. I'm hopeful that it will be positive, but I'm also a realist.
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#33
Three Wheelin'
once people get their new GTS delivered…we will know how many RL’ers will ever experience a loss of power due to battery running out of juice…my guess, probably nobody or very, very few because even RL’ers don’t get into situations like that. Even among RL’ers how many really race their cars to that level to get to that point!?
PS: And to repeat my point of how practical that battery concern is - when having too choose between a 992.1 and 992.2 GTS to race against each other, I can make a large bet which one would win no matter how long the race is.
PS: And to repeat my point of how practical that battery concern is - when having too choose between a 992.1 and 992.2 GTS to race against each other, I can make a large bet which one would win no matter how long the race is.
#34
b) it's not gone forever but will recharge - just think about it, theoretically driving only 7min laps on the ring and it takes one lap to deplete and another to recharge, then you still have a 8 second advantage vs 992.1 every second lap...just a mind experiment, no idea how long recharge takes.
c) didn't porsche also update other components that supposedly help handling
#35
well, we will find out at some point. Also, my guess is the GTS is not targeted for track rats as prime customer to start with (but probably is a very capable track car nevertheless). Track rats should look at the GT2/3RS that are targeted for that.
#36
I'm tired of repeating myself, like talking to a brick wall, the 3.6-liter engine will keep the car running until it is out of firkin gas!
Let’s wait for the car to come out before making any baseless judgments.
#37
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#38
All the engineers and hybrid experts on this thread, who have 93 years of car-building experience, have already condemned the car without even driving it or testing it on the track.
It's reassuring to know we’re surrounded by so many self-proclaimed experts who think they know better.
If only the Porsche engineers asked you first.
It's reassuring to know we’re surrounded by so many self-proclaimed experts who think they know better.
If only the Porsche engineers asked you first.
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#39
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Last edited by Haros; 06-13-2024 at 01:57 PM.
#40
Race Car
a) it's 100lbs, not a couple
b) it's not gone forever but will recharge - just think about it, theoretically driving only 7min laps on the ring and it takes one lap to deplete and another to recharge, then you still have a 8 second advantage vs 992.1 every second lap...just a mind experiment, no idea how long recharge takes.
c) didn't porsche also update other components that supposedly help handling
b) it's not gone forever but will recharge - just think about it, theoretically driving only 7min laps on the ring and it takes one lap to deplete and another to recharge, then you still have a 8 second advantage vs 992.1 every second lap...just a mind experiment, no idea how long recharge takes.
c) didn't porsche also update other components that supposedly help handling
If it could recharge fast enough, it wouldn't be depleted after one hero lap.
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CanAutM3 (06-13-2024)
#41
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Are you a ****ing meth user?
This is a rapid discharge cell pulled from the 919, which itself is derived from F1 in an identical manner.
Not even Max Verstappen himself can do push laps for more than a single lap before needing to charge.
That’s what this system is in sport+, it’s full on time attack mode. It will charge normally and provide power in sport mode.
I don’t know why I’m even explaining this to you, considering you’ll have to read each word phonetically.
”hUr duR PorSche gOne wokE”
This is a rapid discharge cell pulled from the 919, which itself is derived from F1 in an identical manner.
Not even Max Verstappen himself can do push laps for more than a single lap before needing to charge.
That’s what this system is in sport+, it’s full on time attack mode. It will charge normally and provide power in sport mode.
I don’t know why I’m even explaining this to you, considering you’ll have to read each word phonetically.
”hUr duR PorSche gOne wokE”
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#42
Ha ha ha…..for the rich who can afford the GT cars maybe. I will let you in on a secret……..most of the serious track rats I know are driving a dedicated 987S, 981S or a Miata and they frequently outrun those GT cars……because they are much better drivers even in a slower car. I have tracked every one of the 7 Cayman and 911s owned and now track my 992.2S once or twice a year on average. Our lap sessions run 25-30 minutes. I will not buy any Porsche that does not provide consistent high performance throughout at least a 30 minute session. Not saying the 992.2GTS will or will not do it. Just saying I do not know and the unfortunate comment made by the Porsche engineer during the reveal about battery depletion on track raised the concern. I am not buying a 992.2GTS regardless. But, if I were buying, I would not do a damn thing until the answer to this question is resolved to my satisfaction.
Last edited by Fullyield; 06-13-2024 at 03:07 PM.
#43
Intermediate
- They may want to show up to some events in a more relaxed 911 (maybe they instruct and want to focus on coaching and socializing).
- Their GT car might be in for service or need service and not be ready for a track day.
- Maybe the track is further away and they don’t want to drive their GT car that extended distance (can’t fit luggage in a 992 3RS these days).
Last edited by aarodynamics; 06-13-2024 at 02:36 PM.
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#44
Some enthusiasts who track their GT cars may want to track their additional daily-driven 911 (992.2 GTS in this case)…
- They may want to show up to some events in a more relaxed 911 (maybe they instruct and want to focus on coaching and socializing).
- Their GT car might be in for service or need service and not be ready for a track day.
- Maybe the track is further away and they don’t want to drive their GT car that extended distance (can’t fit luggage in a 992 3RS these days).
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#45
Ha ha ha…..for the rich who can afford the GT cars maybe. I will let you in on a secret……..most of the serious track rats I know are driving a dedicated 987S, 981S or a Miata and they frequently outrun those GT cars……because they are much better drivers even in a slower car. I have tracked every one of the 7 Cayman and 911s owned and now track my 992.2S once or twice a year on average. Our lap sessions run 25-30 minutes. I will not buy any Porsche that does not provide consistent high performance throughout at least a 30 minute session. Not saying the 992.2GTS will or will not do it. Just saying I do not know and the unfortunate comment made by the Porsche engineer during the reveal about battery depletion on track raised the concern. I am not buying a 992.2GTS regardless. But, if I were buying, I would not do a damn thing until the answer to this question is resolved to my satisfaction.
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