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Porsche have not published ring lap times for the 992 turbo-S nor for the turbo.
The 7:17 for the TT-S is from the AM&S/SA supertest. One cannot really directly compare factory laps with the AM&S/SA supertest, since laps with a factory driver will always be faster by a meaningful margin.
That being said, the new 992.2 hybrid GTS will be close to 992.1 turbo power and will have further suspension improvements, so the lap time is not surprising.
well, discussion iff Ring performance matters or not - if nothing else, it takes the wind out of the sails for the people that argue the additional weight of batteries and motor make it a porker. Porsche has shown now this is not the case, its even faster around a windy road track including its added weight. So, in this way, only enthusiasts really know or care about the differential weight of the hybrid and these people likely match the demographics who know about the ring too. So, you can think they made that test just for you folks here who never want to buy a hybrid 911 because of its added weight slowing it down ;-)
The article doesn't say which variant of the 992.2 they tested, it only says that it is 8.7 seconds faster, however I checked online and found that the GTS 992.1 did the lap in 7:25.632 minutes, so a simple calculation of the new times:
GTS 992.1 Time 7:25.632 =7×60+25.632 = 445.632 seconds
The Tested 992.2 Car 7:16.934 =7×60+16.934 = 436.934 seconds
Subtract the times:
445.632 seconds − 436.934 seconds = 8.698 seconds
The GTS!
Wait, so 992 GTS literally has an official time literally same as BMW m3 cs (7.25.6 vs 7.28??)
that would also mean a regular m4 cs lci is just 2.2s slower then 992.2 gts?
How is that even possible ;o
EDIT: ok, tires obviously. For gods sake I hopte porsche gave those 992.2 gts times on p4s, not on cup 2 or this will be hugely dissapointing
Originally Posted by silversurfer6
Faster than the 992.2 Turbo S also it seems - I find this hard to believe to be honest. Maybe tyres?
gts is like 150kg lighther then turbo s when it comes to 992.1. thats it i think.
The test car was equipped with standard road tyres, plus the aero kit with a fixed rear wing that has been available as an option for several model generations now, and which provides increased downforce at high speeds.
is that from Porsche press release? It would be literally the first time anywhere they claim fixed wing with aero pack gives more downforce then regular lift up spoiler.
People who buy performance cars and don't know anything about driving performance cars, buy them for status... they want to be seen to be like people who drive performance cars.
That's how Porsche sells Cayennes, Macans, Panameras, Taycans, and even 911s to the doctor and lawyer who drive back and forth to the office.
Porsche only cares about convincing those at the top. The ones who do use Porsches as intended. The ones who do the job of convincing the doctors and lawyers. They do care about Ring times.
And let's face it, most people who buy Porsches today are people who buy the brand status and know little about it's history or purpose. You don't have to go far to find them. Plenty in this sub.
Maybe 911 and even some Boxster/Cayman buyers care but others? Hell, even repeat 911 buyers get jaded at the whole 'ring time thing eventually. The marketing types in Stuttgart love it of course because it's a 'fact' they can use to validate and justify the new model. Otherwise, pretty much means nada.
It's an odd comparison, I know, but my Defender is an MHEV that has a turbo with a supplemental 48V electric supercharger. It works surprisingly well...for what it is.
Yes but now we are talking 400V and state of the art Varta batteries. I will try to post some more technical info in the 992.2 info discussion.
At the end of the day the scope of the 400V e-turbo is to be invisibly integrated and try to make the car feels as a NA one. Results are to be seen and will take years to come to definite conclusion - I am pretty positive though that they have managed to make the e-turbo integration seamless and the press will go nuts in the first reviews.
I can confirm that they will make this car and if you want it start pushing your dealer to reserve one now. It will come next year. Manual is an option. It is a 2WD machine.
well, discussion iff Ring performance matters or not - if nothing else, it takes the wind out of the sails for the people that argue the additional weight of batteries and motor make it a porker. Porsche has shown now this is not the case, its even faster around a windy road track including its added weight. So, in this way, only enthusiasts really know or care about the differential weight of the hybrid and these people likely match the demographics who know about the ring too. So, you can think they made that test just for you folks here who never want to buy a hybrid 911 because of its added weight slowing it down ;-)
Weight is about more than speed, its about the way the car feels to drive. You can always overcome more weight with more HP.
As marketing and brand recognition would be that easy. Just ask your neighbor why she has 3 Porsches in the garage and not some others and you may get your answers they are known to be one of the best if not THE best for sport cars on the road! The ring is a road track, not an oval, not a strip etc..and to be the best on what you claim you proof it and the word will carry all the way to garages like your neighbors. Branding!
05-13-2024, 03:00 PM
The GTS!
