The new 992.2 GTS faster than the 992.1 in 8.7 Seconds at Nürburgring
05-13-2024, 05:06 PM
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Maybe 911 and even some Boxster/Cayman buyers care but others? Hell, even repeat 911 buyers get jaded at the whole 'ring time thing eventually. The marketing types in Stuttgart love it of course because it's a 'fact' they can use to validate and justify the new model. Otherwise, pretty much means nada.
Mostly, via press release.
They don't plaster that number or its significance in any promotional material.
That should tell you who the information is for.
In a world where you can't test drive before ordering, knowing that a 992 C2S is 7 seconds faster than a 997.2 3RS gives people who care or know, some kind of context beyond reading 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In a way, it matters more than reviews by pundits. Not because you'll need to drive it at the Ring but because when people buy something, some buy potential.
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05-13-2024, 05:10 PM
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Regarding Ring times, I look at the times more as a comparative performance number, for a car's handling and pace, to get a sense for how the current generation of car X, compares to the previous generation. It's useful, but not even close to being sufficient, for the facts I consider for buying a car. Without Ring times, the only comparative number we'd have are straight line speeds, that are even less interesting.
05-13-2024, 05:15 PM
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05-13-2024, 05:52 PM
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05-13-2024, 05:55 PM
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A Turbo Manual RWD will keep me very very happy. A Turbo RWD Manual will make much more sense paired up to a AWD Turbo S PDK. Perfect combo to offer.
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05-13-2024, 05:56 PM
#81
Drifting
This thread is the same as every one in the past when a new generation or .2 version comes out. Yet Porsche's sales numbers seem to keep going up with each generation. I think Porsche is selling more water cooled 911's compared to the air cooled models it replaced. I'm betting there were many posts by people saying they would never buy a water cooled Porsche.
I'm excited about the prospect of a better driving 911. That is what Porsche says it strives to deliver with each new model generation. So, I'll wait and see what the new car drives like . If I like it, I'll get one (performance hybrid or not). I have no prejudice regarding hybrid.
I'm excited about the prospect of a better driving 911. That is what Porsche says it strives to deliver with each new model generation. So, I'll wait and see what the new car drives like . If I like it, I'll get one (performance hybrid or not). I have no prejudice regarding hybrid.
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05-13-2024, 05:59 PM
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How are ring times promoted?
Mostly, via press release.
They don't plaster that number or its significance in any promotional material.
That should tell you who the information is for.
In a world where you can't test drive before ordering, knowing that a 992 C2S is 7 seconds faster than a 997.2 3RS gives people who care or know, some kind of context beyond reading 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In a way, it matters more than reviews by pundits. Not because you'll need to drive it at the Ring but because when people buy something, some buy potential.
Mostly, via press release.
They don't plaster that number or its significance in any promotional material.
That should tell you who the information is for.
In a world where you can't test drive before ordering, knowing that a 992 C2S is 7 seconds faster than a 997.2 3RS gives people who care or know, some kind of context beyond reading 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In a way, it matters more than reviews by pundits. Not because you'll need to drive it at the Ring but because when people buy something, some buy potential.
05-13-2024, 06:14 PM
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05-13-2024, 06:30 PM
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05-13-2024, 06:48 PM
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05-13-2024, 06:59 PM
#86
Burning Brakes
One small detail from the press release: "The test car was equipped with standard road tyres, plus the aero kit with a fixed rear wing that has been available as an option for several model generations now, and which provides increased downforce at high speeds."
Aerokit brethren, rejoice it's confirmed functional! Now tell us how much downforce it makes, cowards!
edit: i see I'm late to this and @Defrag caught it already. Oops. That's what I get for not reading the thread first...
Aerokit brethren, rejoice it's confirmed functional! Now tell us how much downforce it makes, cowards!
edit: i see I'm late to this and @Defrag caught it already. Oops. That's what I get for not reading the thread first...
Last edited by zachr; 05-13-2024 at 07:04 PM.
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shrimp money (05-13-2024)
05-13-2024, 07:24 PM
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Regarding Ring times, I look at the times more as a comparative performance number, for a car's handling and pace, to get a sense for how the current generation of car X, compares to the previous generation. It's useful, but not even close to being sufficient, for the facts I consider for buying a car. Without Ring times, the only comparative number we'd have are straight line speeds, that are even less interesting.
But in practice, it's not as clear cut. Between tire technology and re-pavement of the Ring, comparisons between historical Ring times are about as relevant as comparing the price of gasoline today to what it was 10 years ago, without accounting for inflation, which is what people do when they talk about Ring times.
05-13-2024, 08:02 PM
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One small detail from the press release: "The test car was equipped with standard road tyres, plus the aero kit with a fixed rear wing that has been available as an option for several model generations now, and which provides increased downforce at high speeds."
Aerokit brethren, rejoice it's confirmed functional! Now tell us how much downforce it makes, cowards!
edit: i see I'm late to this and @Defrag caught it already. Oops. That's what I get for not reading the thread first...
Aerokit brethren, rejoice it's confirmed functional! Now tell us how much downforce it makes, cowards!
edit: i see I'm late to this and @Defrag caught it already. Oops. That's what I get for not reading the thread first...
05-13-2024, 08:31 PM
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How are ring times promoted?
Mostly, via press release.
They don't plaster that number or its significance in any promotional material.
That should tell you who the information is for.
In a world where you can't test drive before ordering, knowing that a 992 C2S is 7 seconds faster than a 997.2 3RS gives people who care or know, some kind of context beyond reading 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In a way, it matters more than reviews by pundits. Not because you'll need to drive it at the Ring but because when people buy something, some buy potential.
Mostly, via press release.
They don't plaster that number or its significance in any promotional material.
That should tell you who the information is for.
In a world where you can't test drive before ordering, knowing that a 992 C2S is 7 seconds faster than a 997.2 3RS gives people who care or know, some kind of context beyond reading 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In a way, it matters more than reviews by pundits. Not because you'll need to drive it at the Ring but because when people buy something, some buy potential.