fanboy

I'm not opposed to a hybrid engine if it gets me free HP. What I am concerned about is long-term maintenance. What's the cost to replace batteries in 10 years? 911s aren't like Buicks; people tend to keep them around for longer than I expect the lifespan of the average Tesla to be.

null

All the commentary aside, I bet that thing is a hoot to drive.

silversurfer6

It is not a normal hybrid as we think of … a hybrid . It is an e-turbo hybrid i.e the hybrid is used for the turbo part. This is why the weight gain is not huge. The price even now should not be huge. Supplier of batteries is Varta.

silversurfer6

The weight increase though could be less, maybe even 130 pounds. This is speculation on my part, I do not have a figure.

silversurfer6

Manual 992.2 turbo (non s) is coming, manual 992.2 gt3 is coming and maybe a manual T. So no manual on the GTS and future S - for now.

kawter

Or is it because the 911 just simply performs so well in the ring.. Maybe like winning 6 superbowls in a row and saying... Is that really how we evaluate dynasty? Yes there are other "engagement" metrics, but I wonder if we have become desensitized bc the 911 just whips that track's *** (relatively) in all shapes and sizes

RRich

The new GTS is not going to accelerate faster than the previous Turbo S but has a faster lap time. I would estimate the reduction in ring lap time in order of contribution to ; Tires certainly Cup2, Downforce significantly more at speed, and Power immediate and more than previous GTS.

jlegelis

"We have more grip, significantly more power, and the spontaneous response of the performance hybrid is a great advantage.”

Meh. We already have way more "grip, power and response" than anyone can legally / practically use on public roads, this is all just to impress car magazines and instagram. The latest edition of Panorama (just advertising for PCNA near as I can tell) had a breathless piece on new 1000hp, $200k, 200mph Weissach pack Taycan Turbo GT - whatever.

I wish Porsche would pivot their engineering prowess to efficiency rather than max electron usage. Having serious thoughts about a Miata these days... 'back to basics' / performance you can actually use...

thoggptf

Everyone that wants to now jump on the 992.2 bandwagon, I'll happily take your 992.1 S configurable allocation off your hands. I'll never drive mine at Nürburgring, I am not that good of a drive, nor will it matter on the street, current generation is fine for me, you guys chase n+1. :-)

thoggptf

EXACTLY!

atlrvr

GTS is naturally aspirated with electric motor assist....so it will sound better than 991.2 GTS.

Tourque vectoring improved because of immediate and granular application electric allows.

Small battery (don't know technology) and it's not plug-in.

Weight penalty unknown (well, I mean, I don't know) but Nurburgring lap times speak for themselves that it is materially accretive to performance.

nyca

What's going to happen (I think) - many current GTS owners who don't want a 992.2 GTS hybrid, will find themselves buying up to the regular non-hybrid 992.2 Turbo.

silversurfer6

992.2 GTS will not be NA

silversurfer6

Exactly. And this is why that car will also be offered with a manual. It also seems it is going to be 2WD.

Wilder

I think it's brilliant.

Ferrari winning F1 doesn't connect their race cars to their street cars.
Porsche testing high performance cars in what is the undisputed most challenging track in the world decade after decade and always beating their own record does tell the market just how awesome they are.
Perhaps other manufacturers don't do it because the risk of not keeping up is too big?