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Old 05-07-2024, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by porsc992
I just hope my Sales Associate doesn't call to renegotiate the market adjustment!
Send him an Amazon gift card as a bribe. Make it juicy minimum $50.
Old 05-07-2024, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrezaf
That's not bad! My market adjustment for a Targa GTS is a Porsche eBike... speaking of which, does anyone want to buy an eBike with Porsche decals on it? 🤣
Only if you throw in the Targa GTS with it.
Old 05-07-2024, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrezaf
That's not bad! My market adjustment for a Targa GTS is a Porsche eBike... speaking of which, does anyone want to buy an eBike with Porsche decals on it? 🤣
That's better than the deal I got. I'm paying $10k for nothing in exchange lol
Old 05-08-2024, 05:53 AM
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As of now - i.e at launch and this year - the GTS is not offered with a manual. The .2 GTS will be assisted by hybrid technology and will produce 541bhp using a 3.6L engine.

There are at least 2 manual options in the .2 lineup: GT3 and the turbo (non s) - probably more manual option carswill be available in the future.

So in terms of manual GTS it seems like the 992.1 is the last GTS with a manual option.
Old 05-08-2024, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Keadog
As in I change winter and summer sets myself and don't want to deal with 440 ft-lbs. of torque.
I do too. As well as doing quite a few tire rotations during the track season. Centerlocks are no more difficult to manage than 5-lugs once you get the hang of it.
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I do not believe Porsche will give up on the manual on the 911 at this stage.
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Old 05-08-2024, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now - i.e at launch and this year - the GTS is not offered with a manual. The .2 GTS will be assisted by hybrid technology and will produce 541bhp using a 3.6L engine.

There are at least 2 manual options in the .2 lineup: GT3 and the turbo (non s) - probably more manual option carswill be available in the future.

So in terms of manual GTS it seems like the 992.1 is the last GTS with a manual option.
I doubt that. The turbo makes too much torque for the manual. That’s why it got detuned on the S/C.
Old 05-08-2024, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
I do too. As well as doing quite a few tire rotations during the track season. Centerlocks are no more difficult to manage than 5-lugs once you get the hang of it.
RENNtorq tool takes the muscle out of the work. 95 ft-lbs input using a regular ½” drive torque wrench to tighten, and usually up to 150 ft-lbs or less to loosen. I’ve done it once to wash the wheels and coat them, and hoping it stays quick and easy.


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Old 05-08-2024, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
I doubt that. The turbo makes too much torque for the manual. That’s why it got detuned on the S/C.
It would seem strange to only offer manuals on the GT3/Turbo. The GT3 likely has a pretty low manual take rate currently and a base Turbo is currently PDK only and not a car I’ve ever heard someone complain about not being available in a manual. Manuals make far more sense at the lower end of the 911 lineup (B, T, S, even GTS) where people are driving the cars on the street, usually as a 2nd/fun car and looking for maximum fun and engagement. As much as I like a manual, if I was buying a Turbo or a GT3, I’d be looking at it for either ultimate speed/acceleration or as the ultimate track weapon, and PDK is the answer for both.
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Originally Posted by pal
It has a few more things that are not on the S, such as the bigger brakes from the Turbo, the stacked twin-spring rear suspension, mechanical LSD with the manual (maybe this can be spec'd on the S), and the PITA, but sweet looking, Centerlock wheels from the Turbo S.
Mechanical LSD standard equipment on S and T with MT.
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
I do too. As well as doing quite a few tire rotations during the track season. Centerlocks are no more difficult to manage than 5-lugs once you get the hang of it.
Until you have a nonrepairable flat in Minot, ND. Better carry your tools for your CLs with you.
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Originally Posted by Brad Stinson
It would seem strange to only offer manuals on the GT3/Turbo. The GT3 likely has a pretty low manual take rate currently and a base Turbo is currently PDK only and not a car I’ve ever heard someone complain about not being available in a manual. Manuals make far more sense at the lower end of the 911 lineup (B, T, S, even GTS) where people are driving the cars on the street, usually as a 2nd/fun car and looking for maximum fun and engagement. As much as I like a manual, if I was buying a Turbo or a GT3, I’d be looking at it for either ultimate speed/acceleration or as the ultimate track weapon, and PDK is the answer for both.
Per Jerry Ellis at M Engineering, 992 factory dry clutch system in MT can handle up to 660 ft. Lbs. of torque. SC not “de tuned” which is a meme created by journalist. Porsche never said that. What Porsche marketing did was improve the TT platform sales by every SC sold. SC built was 2WD and MT on a TT platform (non TTS) not because of MT. I read the same journalist speculation in same articles so asked M Engineering.
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Old 05-08-2024, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
As of now - i.e at launch and this year - the GTS is not offered with a manual. The .2 GTS will be assisted by hybrid technology and will produce 541bhp using a 3.6L engine.

There are at least 2 manual options in the .2 lineup: GT3 and the turbo (non s) - probably more manual option carswill be available in the future.

So in terms of manual GTS it seems like the 992.1 is the last GTS with a manual option.

I doubt that the GTS will make 540hp, unless they are changing the positioning of the car (price goes way up). Most of the rumors say there will be a new high performance hybrid that sits between the GTS and the Turbo, what you are saying makes sense for that model. Also, the GTS and Turbo are going to have similar engines/hybrid systems in different states of tune so why would they dump the manual on the GTS, and add it to the Turbo where it isn't currently available.
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Old 05-08-2024, 09:59 AM
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All these rumors solidified my decision to jump on one of the last 992.1 targa 4 GTS allocations.. and it will be a manual
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Old 05-08-2024, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
I doubt that. The turbo makes too much torque for the manual. That’s why it got detuned on the S/C.
I think that might’ve been a function of traction management rather than an inability of the manual to handle the horsepower/torque. The S/C isn’t that far removed from the Turbo in terms of raw numbers.


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