2022 Porsche 911 S got rear ended today
01-23-2024, 08:33 AM
#16
That must have been quite a jolt if you weren’t expecting it. Hope you are OK. On that note I wish front collision detection was standard on more cars for our sake. Although the vehicle that hit you appears to be an older Toyota.
01-23-2024, 08:52 AM
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i said it was a bummer and it is i hope whatever the owners wants to have happen, happens. it's a very unfortunate thing.
01-23-2024, 09:25 AM
#18
Sorry you are going through this, I went through it back in Sept.
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
01-23-2024, 10:35 AM
#19
Sorry you are going through this, I went through it back in Sept.
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
They’re saying they will cover only 25 miles, it’s 113 miles away. This is also BS. Since there are no certified repair shops in the area. I will have to fight this as well I guess
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01-23-2024, 10:49 AM
#20
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Get a specialist/attorney. It won't cost you anything in the end and will keep some stress off of you fighting the battle.
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01-23-2024, 11:25 AM
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Attorneys are not free....you may not need one and then again you might. Several years ago my wife was side swiped in North Scottsdale driving a 3 year old BMW wagon. It had about a $30K value. Damage was $10K and the body shop was Penski . I asked for $6K in DV. The other drivers ins co was Haggerty, who specializes in collector cars, etc. They tried to tell me that they do not pay DV under any circumstances. Finally sent me a check for $1550. I asked for an email that stated that the amount they sent did not constitute settlement and that I still had the right to continue and receive additional monies. After weeks of jerking me around I sent them notice of court date. Almost immediately they countered...I told them to F off. Next day a supervisor called and agreed to pay. Just don't give in there is tons of info on line that will confirm that you are entitled to 20-25% of value for DV. So probably about $30K for DV. Good luck and so sorry for having to go thru this BS.
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01-23-2024, 11:45 AM
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Like I said above, this car is most likely totaled.
OP should hope and pray that it is, and push hard for it.
Dealing with DV is very much like dealing with the DMV. Just a complete clusterfcuk.
OP should hope and pray that it is, and push hard for it.
Dealing with DV is very much like dealing with the DMV. Just a complete clusterfcuk.
01-23-2024, 12:06 PM
#23
I've never gone through this but have read many times that (unfortunately) you will not get full DV until an actual court date is established. Not just a lawyer letter, or anything else. You have to show that you are going to court.
I think people say the lawyer is "free" in the sense that you won't be able to do this yourself and that the lawyer fees make up the difference.
I think people say the lawyer is "free" in the sense that you won't be able to do this yourself and that the lawyer fees make up the difference.
01-23-2024, 12:20 PM
#24
Burning Brakes
You realize that the cost of repairs would have to exceed ~$100k for the insurance company to total this car? You can do a lot of repairs for 100 grand.
01-23-2024, 12:21 PM
#25
Burning Brakes
I've never gone through this but have read many times that (unfortunately) you will not get full DV until an actual court date is established. Not just a lawyer letter, or anything else. You have to show that you are going to court.
I think people say the lawyer is "free" in the sense that you won't be able to do this yourself and that the lawyer fees make up the difference.
I think people say the lawyer is "free" in the sense that you won't be able to do this yourself and that the lawyer fees make up the difference.
Last edited by remington; 01-23-2024 at 12:44 PM.
01-23-2024, 02:46 PM
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01-23-2024, 03:06 PM
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Some states have thresholds as low as 70% of ACV, and some insurers will have even lower internal thresholds to declare a car "totaled". In Arizona, where the OP is, the threshold is, in fact, 70% of ACV.
Given the pictures, I would say the cost of repair would easily be at least 50% of the ACV of the OP's 992 911 C2S.
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detansinn (01-23-2024)
01-23-2024, 04:06 PM
#28
Sorry you are going through this, I went through it back in Sept.
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
Here is some advice I can offer:
1. Make sure the collision center you sent your car to is a Porsche certified collision center. You can verify and find one here: https://www.porschecollisioncenter.com/
2. Build rapport with the Porsche lead at the collision center as you want them to replace your damaged parts with 100% new Porsche parts versus repairing (i.e., new bumper Vs. repairing and repainting it…)
3. Contact your PPF/Ceramic business and let them know you had this incident. They’ve most likely been through this before and will walk you through the steps/process they follow for insurance claims. Most likely you will have to file a supplemental claim with the insurance carrier as this work will be covered, but will not take place at the same time as the collision center work. You will need to wait a minimum of 30 days for the paint to cure before applying the PPF and ceramic.
4. An important note is ask your PPF contact if they have a stencil or alignment template for the 992 CS rear badging. Why is this important? The collision center will order a brand new bumper and badging. You’ll want to request that the collision center doesn’t put the badging on. The PPF shop will most likely want to have the bumper clean and then apply the badging (mine did), hence the importance of having a stencil/alignment template to ensure the badging is properly aligned when applied. Porsche sales an alignment template, yet it might be a bit pricey
5. If you have RAS, you will certainly want to have the proper alignment done by the Porsche dealer. The car will go (or should go) to the dealer before you get it back from the collision center as they will have to calibrate all the driver safety/motion censors and ensure everything meets Porsche specs
Hope this is helpful to you!
I used the link you provided and verified that Penske is an authorized collision center and this was the one initially assigned to me by Porsche until the towing company decided something else. I contacted Porsche again and they despatched a different company to take the car where it needs to go, Penske, which is the closest certified center to me. The car is in it’s way now.
I’m sure this is not the only battle I will have to go through to get this sorted out. It’s such a shame especially that it is COMPLETELY NOT MY FAULT. I should be made whole with original parts from Porsche to restore the vehicle to it’s original condition. The insurance compay should not have to dictate how I het my car repaired. It’s a new car and needs new parts.
I spoke to Penske today and they had issues dealing with state farm before. I want OEM parts and should get them. I’m expecting a fight down the line.
I spoke to the PPF shop. Once I figure out the damage and get an agreement on the repairs and the car actually gets repaired I will take it to the PPF shop.
Next I will need to figure out how to get the DV sorted out. The car has only 11000 miles on it. I should get 20-30k for that. I’m expecting it not to be easy and might need to get legal counsel as I won’t have the time to do this and lack the knowledge to proceed.
Thank you again for the info. If you have more please let me know
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01-23-2024, 04:19 PM
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I was down this road a year ago when I lost my Taycan 4S. I too was rear-ended by a Toyota and not at fault. It's not your fault and yet, it becomes a part-time job just to stay on top of everything. Good luck with the adventure! You won't get anything for your anxiety and headaches, but it will be a big exhale when you're out the other side.
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01-23-2024, 04:29 PM
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Thank you. Your comment was super helpful. The roadside towing company “decided” on their own that there was no need to take it to Phoenix for a certified Porsche Collision center and decided to deliver it here in Tucson.
I used the link you provided and verified that Penske is an authorized collision center and this was the one initially assigned to me by Porsche until the towing company decided something else. I contacted Porsche again and they despatched a different company to take the car where it needs to go, Penske, which is the closest certified center to me. The car is in it’s way now.
I’m sure this is not the only battle I will have to go through to get this sorted out. It’s such a shame especially that it is COMPLETELY NOT MY FAULT. I should be made whole with original parts from Porsche to restore the vehicle to it’s original condition. The insurance compay should not have to dictate how I het my car repaired. It’s a new car and needs new parts.
I spoke to Penske today and they had issues dealing with state farm before. I want OEM parts and should get them. I’m expecting a fight down the line.
I spoke to the PPF shop. Once I figure out the damage and get an agreement on the repairs and the car actually gets repaired I will take it to the PPF shop.
Next I will need to figure out how to get the DV sorted out. The car has only 11000 miles on it. I should get 20-30k for that. I’m expecting it not to be easy and might need to get legal counsel as I won’t have the time to do this and lack the knowledge to proceed.
Thank you again for the info. If you have more please let me know
I used the link you provided and verified that Penske is an authorized collision center and this was the one initially assigned to me by Porsche until the towing company decided something else. I contacted Porsche again and they despatched a different company to take the car where it needs to go, Penske, which is the closest certified center to me. The car is in it’s way now.
I’m sure this is not the only battle I will have to go through to get this sorted out. It’s such a shame especially that it is COMPLETELY NOT MY FAULT. I should be made whole with original parts from Porsche to restore the vehicle to it’s original condition. The insurance compay should not have to dictate how I het my car repaired. It’s a new car and needs new parts.
I spoke to Penske today and they had issues dealing with state farm before. I want OEM parts and should get them. I’m expecting a fight down the line.
I spoke to the PPF shop. Once I figure out the damage and get an agreement on the repairs and the car actually gets repaired I will take it to the PPF shop.
Next I will need to figure out how to get the DV sorted out. The car has only 11000 miles on it. I should get 20-30k for that. I’m expecting it not to be easy and might need to get legal counsel as I won’t have the time to do this and lack the knowledge to proceed.
Thank you again for the info. If you have more please let me know
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