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Old 10-19-2023, 11:48 AM
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It looks like they modelled the S for comparison. Take aways:

- 6 lbs lighter than an S
- 70 to 0 braking stop 143 feet vs 136 ft on the S
- 1/4 mile 12.2 vs 11.8 on the S (manual to manual)

Not a bad showing. Enjoy.
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10-19-2023, 12:06 PM
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Let's call it what it is...a brilliant move by Porsche marketing to make an extra $10,000 by offering a manual transmission and LSD with the base engine.
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Originally Posted by tna3
Car and Driver T review

It looks like they modelled the S for comparison. Take aways:

- 6 lbs lighter than an S
- 70 to 0 braking stop 143 feet vs 136 ft on the S
- 1/4 mile 12.2 vs 11.8 on the S (manual to manual)

Not a bad showing. Enjoy.
Those 2 db though…that really reinforces the “ethos” and the .4sec slower 1/4 means you can really rev it out on the street.
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Let's call it what it is...a brilliant move by Porsche marketing to make an extra $10,000 by offering a manual transmission and LSD with the base engine.

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I was really surprised by 30mpg at 75mph, a 700 mile range with the larger gas tank. Not a sports car metric (mpg), and probably never thought about on these vehicles, but seriously impressive considering the performance level of the car

Also surprised at 0-60 and 1/4 mile times being so close with the S having more power, but new to 911's so I could just not be thinking about it correctly.
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No thanks. the base car (and all the rest of the models) are loud enough inside on the highway already. Don't need to make it louder to save 10 lbs, which no one will notice anyway.
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It's cruel to do that 50-70 roll on with that seventh gear... 8.6s
For comparison, Car & Driver's Camry test is 5.1s for the top gear 50-70 roll-on.
My pickup truck does it in 2.2s.
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It's cruel to do that 50-70 roll on with that seventh gear... 8.6s
For comparison, Car & Driver's Camry test is 5.1s for the top gear 50-70 roll-on.
My pickup truck does it in 2.2s.
Even though I use 7th gear, I never use it below 70 or even 80 for that matter.
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Originally Posted by tna3
It looks like they modelled the S for comparison. Take aways:

- 6 lbs lighter than an S
- 70 to 0 braking stop 143 feet vs 136 ft on the S
- 1/4 mile 12.2 vs 11.8 on the S (manual to manual)

Not a bad showing. Enjoy.
Car and Driver T review
Good write up. Interesting that their test car as equipped was 3311 lbs. From their procedure it looks like they weigh with a full tank which adds a lot. I threw mine on the scales with 1/2 tank of gas (extended tank) and it was ~3270. Major differences? They have RAS, FAL and full leather, which I don't. I have 18 way seats.
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To me, that wasn’t actually a review. There was no discussion on how that car actually feels or handles. That’s 90% of what road tests used to be (and should be) and 90% of what I’d want to know. I wonder if the reviewer actually drove the car and if he/she has any real car experience. That could have been written from sale literature.


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“Drew Dorian is a lifelong car enthusiast who has also held a wide variety of consumer-focused positions throughout his career, ranging from financial counselor to auto salesperson. He has dreamed of becoming a Car and Driver editor since he was 11 years old…”


LOL, that explains it!

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Originally Posted by Denny Swift
To me, that wasn’t actually a review. There was no discussion on how that car actually feels or handles. That’s 90% of what road tests used to be (and should be) and 90% of what I’d want to know. I wonder if the reviewer actually drove the car and if he/she has any real car experience. That could have been written from sale literature.
Yeah it is definitely light on road testing. There's only about 2 paragraphs about real driving impressions...with the rest of it just repeating Porsche T marketing and specs.
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6lbs… lol. As mentioned Porsche marketing hit it out of the park.
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Originally Posted by Denny Swift
To me, that wasn’t actually a review. There was no discussion on how that car actually feels or handles. That’s 90% of what road tests used to be (and should be) and 90% of what I’d want to know. I wonder if the reviewer actually drove the car and if he/she has any real car experience. That could have been written from sale literature.


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“Drew Dorian is a lifelong car enthusiast who has also held a wide variety of consumer-focused positions throughout his career, ranging from financial counselor to auto salesperson. He has dreamed of becoming a Car and Driver editor since he was 11 years old…”


LOL, that explains it!
Today's journalism doesn't require much in the way of actual knowledge anymore. These articles will be written by AI soon and will actually be an improvement.
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Originally Posted by Denny Swift
To me, that wasn’t actually a review. There was no discussion on how that car actually feels or handles. That’s 90% of what road tests used to be (and should be) and 90% of what I’d want to know. I wonder if the reviewer actually drove the car and if he/she has any real car experience. That could have been written from sale literature.
It's a review of a trim level of the 911 by a news outlet that has reviewed every other trim level of the 992. It's not like the T is revelatory evolution of the iconic sports car. It's an option package for the 911. In this generation, the standout "feature" is that it's the only way Porsche will let you get a manual with the base engine.
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Either this is a joke or someone was lied to, or it’s not an apples to apples comparison.


Only 6lbs less than an S but the T loses rear seat, power adjustable seats, smaller brakes(?) and has thinner glass.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Either this is a joke or someone was lied to, or it’s not an apples to apples comparison.


Only 6lbs less than an S but the T loses rear seat, power adjustable seats, smaller brakes(?) and has thinner glass.
I believe the S they tested didn’t have FAL but the T has both FAL and extended fuel tank. The difference is less than 50 lbs and depending on options S could weigh in less than T.


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