miglio

Hi guys,
do you think the 992.2 GTS will be revealed in November 2023 as Carrera models facelifted ?

Usually Porsche don’t do that but this year I can see a lot of spy shots taking also the GTS in a near almost finished version like others Carrera variants.

Now I can place an order for a 992.1 GTS slot here in Italy but I don’t want put this and see in few weeks an updated GTS (probably with hybrid system)…

I’m also concerned if it’s a good idea to be possessor of the (probably not sure) last ICE GTS ?!?!

I also had this version of 911 cause I drove for 18 months a 992.1 Carrera S … this can help with your ideas

speculations ?

shrimp money

It's not the last ICE 911.

miglio

Yes…

but I have wrote (probably) the last ICE GTS…not 911

i speculate for the spy pics of the Gts 992.2 shotted with a yellow badge (necessary for declared hybrid engine on the track for German nurb)

Aus911Fan

My sales advisor told me the .2 will be released in March or April next year and only Carrera and GTS will be released at that time. I would get a .2 GTS and not care about the hybrid or not.

Furqan8421

I was offered a gts allocation and decided to take it knowing the .2 version will be out soon enough

ultimately there will always be newer versions of the 911, it just depends on if the current car offers what you want

Because after the .2 will inevitably be the next generation and the next etc

Defrag

yeah, but there is a difference if you are buying old model/lift version 2 months rather then 4-5 years before next model, isnt it

miglio

now I have a Taycan GTS (anda Cayenne coupe hybrid to trade for 911),
but 2 years ago I drove for 18 months a Carrera S 992 gen

This is one of the reason I’m concerned…because I’m afraid to come back in the same car more or less.

This on the first thought…thinking more I’m always following GTS model since 991 generation…

the look, the Gt add on … fascinating me.

One of the reasons push me to proceed on the order of 992.1 GTS is also that this GTS gen could probably be the latest ICE Gts for 911 and this inspire me.

i know that hybridization will make a powerful GTS but for some reasons, sometimes less is more.

i don’t know what to do and I’ve very few days to decide.

Last reason is price !!!

If I order now I can :

• obtain a 8-9% discount on listing price
• avoid the (probably) increase of price of 992.2
• obtain near 5k euros more on my Cayenne coupe hybrid for trade with dealer

Waiting for 992.2 probably i can see

• GTS increasing in price about 5/8%
• discount near to zero for months
• 5k near less for trade my Cayenne coupe hybrid

not easy decision

Defrag

you can as well wait for new model to show up and decide then, if you like it take it, if not - old model prices will drop even more (bla bla bla, many people will say they wont because last non hybrid and other bull****, but the truth it - they always will, its a car and depreciating asset and old models always go down unless its 500 limited piece or 2mln car) and get something from stock / 2nd hand for 992.1 if you still prefer it.

Wilder

Take the .1. You can always trade it for a .2. If you wait for the .2 and don't like it, you'll be stuck with someone else's build as a used car.

911my22

The decision is easier than it sounds IMHO

Get the 992.1 GTS and after the .2 presentation you’ll decide if upgrading or sticking with .1

A well - not insanely - spec’ed 992.1 GTS in Italy is about 185/190k€ (195/200kUSD)

A similar .2 GTS should be around 200k€ (195/205k€ according to your data)

8/9% discount is about 16k€ + add up for the Cayenne is 5k€ for a total of 21k€ bonus.


Since you probably are a loyal customer to your PC (992S, Cayenne, Taycan and may be some more you didn’t mention) you might consider to pre-agree a trade in when the .2 GTS will be marketed, if you like the upgrade better. You can also upgrade later when also .2 will be discounted or just stick with the .1 if you like it better.

Only thing I don’t understand is when you say you’re worried to go back to something similar to 992S when you’re currently driving a Taycan…

miglio

thank you and you are right.

your plan is exactly what I have done since 991.2 and 992.1 … I’ve done that.

I said about 992s and a GTS now similar to that because in the change I think it’s good also have major changes in interior and exterior…(although is a facelift…but I remember the last facelift and for me was big enough)

thank you

911my22

You are welcome.

Brakes are bigger, spring and damper rates are slightly different, 30 hp more. Sport design package and center locks (if you decide to go for them…).

GTS is better but not a completely different car from the S IMHO. I would go for it though (io la prenderei )

Haros

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Ikone

Careful with that type of conclusion. GT3T and S/T are different from a suspension and steering perspective. The S/T doesn't have RAS, specifically to save weight and they adjusted for it in other ways. RAS vs no RAS on Carrera models doesn't compare.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/pres...-dynamics.html

"In addition to saving weight, engineers targeted traditional, purist handling by dispensing with rear-wheel steering. With the use of uniball bearings on the front suspension (complete) and on the LSA five-link rear suspension (inside and outside on the lower wishbone), they also achieved increased driving precision. With all this in mind, the 911 S/T received a specific damper and steering tuning set-up that took all the individual parameters into account and gave the 911 S/T its unique character."


.....and then you delete your post. smh.

yrralis1

Life is short . I dont like waiting . I waited a year for my current GTS and was the first at my dealership . Recently I had two different friends searching for a low mile CPO GTS and I tagged along via phone, text and e mail watching their process . BOTH found impeccable cars !! Price was reasonable . Now of course an ordered car will be an exact spec but they cars are so close to what they would have bought and best of all .. they had the car in 5 days !!! Plus they have CPO (mine doesn't and has more miles ).

Ordering the car was at a time when it was stressful . They bypassed all of that .