Concerned about Quality Issues in Ordered 992
09-17-2023, 05:21 PM
#76
I see a use case for the Burmester if you really really enjoy the best possible sound quality, though for a T or GTS, I think it doesn't make that much sense due to having by default less sound insulation in those variants. But as so often - ordering a Porsche 911 means you can easily add your own taste and likings into it and we should accept that our ideal configuration isn't the one of another person.
09-17-2023, 05:41 PM
#77
Just note that some of your added options are probably not gonna make the resale value really "higher" - e.g. the leather owners manual, backrest shells in leather or the floor mats.
Anyway, I hope you get your car and then enjoy it in good health!
Anyway, I hope you get your car and then enjoy it in good health!
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09-17-2023, 05:46 PM
#78
That means you do not have an allocation. You have a promise for an allocation if they get one. They are just holding your money, and a lot of it. I only had to put $5k down and got an actual commission number from the dealer.
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09-17-2023, 05:52 PM
#79
Hello,
Seeing many people report issues of build quality issues on the 992s. I have an order in coming in later this year and I am having serious concerns about this and losing sleep. After paying close to $200K for a car, I don't expect any kind of issues. Creaking, batteries dying, glass getting cloudy, random error messages on dash, etc. - these are just some of the reported issues. Are these widespread issues? Do I need to be worried? Should I cancel my order???
Thanks
Seeing many people report issues of build quality issues on the 992s. I have an order in coming in later this year and I am having serious concerns about this and losing sleep. After paying close to $200K for a car, I don't expect any kind of issues. Creaking, batteries dying, glass getting cloudy, random error messages on dash, etc. - these are just some of the reported issues. Are these widespread issues? Do I need to be worried? Should I cancel my order???
Thanks
What you don’t get on forums is how many owners experience a particular issue? That’s an unknown. But there are a few issues that have been reported by more than a handful of owners - rattles and batteries dying. That makes me believe they are real issues, but still don’t know the frequency of those issues.
If you are expecting a car with zero issues, then perhaps you need to re-think your choice, as the Porsche is a complicated car? That said, I’ve had rattles, but still love the car and think, overall, the car is still very reliable.
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09-17-2023, 05:58 PM
#80
Two more comments:
- I think there is a sizable % of Porsche buyers that are over extending their buying comfort zone…and probably should buy something less expensive. If paying $200K keeps you up at night, then maybe you are one of those people?
- If you buy and have regrets down the road, there’s a lot of prospective buyers that would be willing to buy your car. The re-sale market for the 992 is very strong.
- I think there is a sizable % of Porsche buyers that are over extending their buying comfort zone…and probably should buy something less expensive. If paying $200K keeps you up at night, then maybe you are one of those people?
- If you buy and have regrets down the road, there’s a lot of prospective buyers that would be willing to buy your car. The re-sale market for the 992 is very strong.
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09-17-2023, 06:04 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by porschewiseguy
10% - around $20K
10% - around $20K
09-17-2023, 06:11 PM
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As to your question on build quality, I will say that every generation of 911 has had and likely will have issues over time. As others have said, internet forums trumpet the failures loudly and regularly scare people with problems that only effect a small sample of buyers.
EDIT/addition: I could see how a "loaded" T could retain it's value better than the car you've built:
-add buckets (therefore deleting the back seats at the same time)
-manual transmission (I think this is a key factor in the T)
-no sunroof
-FAL is one of those options you either need or you don't. It can be a positive or negative depending on the buyer.
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09-17-2023, 07:02 PM
#83
that’s not my understanding. At the dealer me and a few of the SAs we’re doing the deal together and we were all laughing and having good time and they said I should have the car soon and the next one is mine. So I know my order is in. They confirmed the build code also
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09-17-2023, 07:07 PM
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09-17-2023, 07:23 PM
#85
No wonder they were all “laughing and having a good time”……
09-17-2023, 07:34 PM
#86
Burning Brakes
Exactly
09-17-2023, 07:34 PM
#87
Instructor
I think the poster is suggesting the reason the dealers were laughing is that you’re under the impression you have an allocation when they know they have your $25k for a demand order only. As others have said, until you have a commission number you have nothing but empty promises from your SA
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09-17-2023, 07:51 PM
#88
I think the poster is suggesting the reason the dealers were laughing is that you’re under the impression you have an allocation when they know they have your $25k for a demand order only. As others have said, until you have a commission number you have nothing but empty promises from your SA
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09-17-2023, 08:13 PM
#90
Instructor
your demand order is confirmed but “arriving soon”… my experience was a demand order placed in early Dec 2021, my SA calling me the end of the month saying he had an allocation and did I want to move forward. A $5k deposit got me a confirmed order with a commission number. Estimated build date was May 2022; I took delivery Aug 2022. So if your dealer is telling you that it will be a short period of time before your new car arrives… well that seems inconsistent with most others experience here.