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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 07:14 PM
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I would really appreciate some advice.

So I've been looking for a C4S for a while now. I'm on 4th the list at my dealership so that could be another year to 18 months as my dealer said before I get an allocation. The problem is the prices have gone up so much I'm not sure it's worth buying a new one anymore. The 992.1 C4S began at 120K starting and now has reached close to 140K which is ridiculous. With the options I'd like to spec I'd reach about 170-175K, which I just can't stomach for a C4S.

This has pushed me into looking at a used C4S and even though none on the market have the exact specs I would have wanted, there will always be something missing unless I build it myself so I'll have to settle somewhere. I was looking at this 2020 C4S which is pretty highly optioned and would be able to get it for about 141K, MSRP was 168K and it has 9500 miles. Anybody think this is a good deal? Originally I would have wanted a color other than black or white on the exterior and a red interior but this has a lot of the other options I would have wanted so I'm thinking of settling and going for it, especially because even if I got an allocation for a new build, 170K is just too much for a C4S.

https://formulamiami.com/listings/po...-e8a069dd-a26d


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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 07:34 PM
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And when you finally get to order the next one it will most likely be a 992.2 and cost even more. These are nice cars but an S or 4s are not worth over 150k imho.
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 07:44 PM
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Very nice build. Love the PCCB. How’s the carfax? Maybe PPI?
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RamoThePharaoh
I would really appreciate some advice.

So I've been looking for a C4S for a while now. I'm on 4th the list at my dealership so that could be another year to 18 months as my dealer said before I get an allocation. The problem is the prices have gone up so much I'm not sure it's worth buying a new one anymore. The 992.1 C4S began at 120K starting and now has reached close to 140K which is ridiculous. With the options I'd like to spec I'd reach about 170-175K, which I just can't stomach for a C4S.

This has pushed me into looking at a used C4S and even though none on the market have the exact specs I would have wanted, there will always be something missing unless I build it myself so I'll have to settle somewhere. I was looking at this 2020 C4S which is pretty highly optioned and would be able to get it for about 141K, MSRP was 168K and it has 9500 miles. Anybody think this is a good deal? Originally I would have wanted a color other than black or white on the exterior and a red interior but this has a lot of the other options I would have wanted so I'm thinking of settling and going for it, especially because even if I got an allocation for a new build, 170K is just too much for a C4S.

https://formulamiami.com/listings/po...-e8a069dd-a26d


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I have to say, if you are fourth on a list and have another 12-18 month wait time before your number is called and then you still have to wait on the build itself, I would move forward on this used one ASAP before it gets snapped up by somebody else. Lots of really nice options on it and looks fantastic. Try to find a carfax for it and/or see if the dealer can supply you with any service records. Price seems fair to me. This way your driving today or tomorrow! Life can be so short, just look at what happened in Hawaii this past week. I try to live for today.........So my advise, Get the Black one now!
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 09:01 PM
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Carfax is one owner no accidents. Do you think a PPI is necessary with only 9500 miles?
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 09:06 PM
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I have to say, if you are fourth on a list and have another 12-18 month wait time before your number is called and then you still have to wait on the build itself, I would move forward on this used one ASAP before it gets snapped up by somebody else. Lots of really nice options on it and looks fantastic. Try to find a carfax for it and/or see if the dealer can supply you with any service records. Price seems fair to me. This way you're driving today or tomorrow! Life can be so short, just look at what happened in Hawaii this past week. I try to live for today.........So my advice, Get the Black one now!
I don't really mind waiting the 12-18 months since I already have a 2018 Audi RS5 coupe. The thing I do mind is that after that wait I'll have to pay 170K+ for a C4S when I could have paid 20K less for the same car last year haha. I was told it will likely be less than a year since they have been getting more allocations the 12-18 months was the longest estimate. The Carfax for this black one is one owner and has no accidents. It's definitely not my first choice exterior and interior colors but I guess you can't really go wrong with black on black. If I can get a good trade in for my RS5 I think I might go for it.
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 09:14 PM
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Is it weird that it’s odd to me that the car is priced appropriately given mileage and year?

Has the 3 or 4 year service been completed? Those aren’t on the cheaper end.
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 11:30 PM
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Another option I've been looking at is a 2018 911 Turbo with 13K miles for around the same price. Any opinions on which would be the better choice overall for a fun daily driver?
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 01:47 AM
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Honestly I think you should buy new.
I think it comes down to what you value but I would want to pick every single spec in the car I drive. And if I'm already spending $150k I'd rather spend an extra $25k for my own selection and break-in of the car instead of not knowing how some other person drove the car.
In the end you should ask what the value of $25k is to you, what you would do with it otherwise, and probably compare whether that alternative use brings you more or less happiness. You only live once and if you're already buying a Porsche you probably know buying this car is completely superfluous to begin with
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 09:33 AM
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If it were me, with your parameters and listed thoughts above, I would do a serious search into the background of the black C4S that you linked. Have a dealer do a PPI and scour the carfax, search the internet, and see what you can find out about that black car and if it pans out okay, spring for that one.

Pick a path and enjoy the ride!
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 09:54 AM
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I would get this one as it is very nicely optioned.

Just for yucks, I bet if you called the dealer which you are number4 on the list after you bought the car and offered it as a trade, you would no longer be #4 and depending on what they offered, you could jump to #1 or even get an allocation. Lists go in order of profitability.

That should tell you about the pitfalls of currently being number 4 on the list. You have a looooong wait ahead of you.
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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There will be 1-2 more price increases every year going forward so prices will only go up. You could always pick up a used car now and make the decision on whether to order a new one and sell this one when your name gets called.
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RamoThePharaoh
The thing I do mind is that after that wait I'll have to pay 170K+ for a C4S when I could have paid 20K less for the same car last year haha.
The answer to your question as prices will only go up from here.
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Old Aug 13, 2023 | 09:44 PM
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There is an advantage to buying new versus even slightly used. In my mind it's a really big advantage. When bought new, you know exactly how it's been driven and how it's been taken care of from the very beginning (or as close as one can get to it).
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 02:03 AM
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Chantilly Porsche (Virginia) has a couple of used 992 C4S for sale. https://www.porschechantilly.com/use...sche&Model=911

You should post your location so other members can help you locate a vehicle near you.
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