Yes, we debate the color of the stitching. (And the side decals.)

 

T, S, or GTS. It's a win, win, win situation. I'd be happy with any of the three as long as it's configured the way I want it. I did go all leather this time, because if I keep it for more than ten years, I don't want the race-tex showing signs of wear. Leather on the other hand will patina nicely.

 

I don't believe ED is tied to a particular model - I think it's a matter of when you request ED, along with some luck. In my case, I got ED for my Carrera T - allocation was given to me on 1/16 and I finally got an ED date on 3/13 (Leipzig, Aug 22).

 

It's no tied to a model. I wasn't trying to imply that. But, when I was given the option to buy the T, ED was not available. For this and other reasons, I gave away the allocation to wait for another. The GTS came along and they had an ED slot, so I took it. For me it was between the T and S/GTS. I'll be happy with any of those as long as they are optioned the way I want. Super excited for the GTS though.

 

The 2018 T is the car that got me seriously thinking about making a future 911 purchase. I rem building them on the configurator to around $111k at the time, My cheapskate (aka "poverty spec") 2023 T only came to $125k - and I got everything I wanted (except unavailable PTS!). Now I think that feels like a bargain, since if I were ordering a 2024 T, the build would come to $149k (assuming PTS is actually available, which I would not bet on).

 

Agreed - that was the main issue w/the GTS for me - I could not get the wheels or seats that I wanted. I'd get leather interior on an S just so I could get the sport-tex seat centers (standard on the T so I skipped leather interior this time - leaves more room for potential future upgrade). And then of course that unlocks the extended deviated stitching.

 

Well unfortunately because Rennlist = egos. And the profound conformation bias on here ends up with constant posts in these types of threats about why my car is better than your car and I'm better at making decisions.

 

In 2021 ( when I ordered my 2022 GTS) I spend more hours that I can count on the configurator . My lowest GTS (had all the essentials ) cost identical to a decent option T . Thats how much the price has increased In 2018 with the last Gen T this was a totally different ball game . Pac then a modest T cost less than an S and in the event that they cost the same the T was loaded . Plus PCCB was offered to compensate for Base Carrera brakes . Its not that the new T is bad . Its just is not the value it once was which made the former car great.

 

Agree . All 911's are fantastic cars but thats not what brings us to the point where we split hairs to pick 'the one" that we take home . For each person its different .

What I find inconsistent with Nick is that with both the Macan GTS and the 992 GTS he didn't feel that the bundle package made the car a value . With both cars he preferred the S (deep down I think its because he hates race tex enough to make a solo video on it ). But with the T he goes out and drives a bloated expensive base car (but it has a manual) and it tickles his fancy .

Just a note on you tube journalists - Its a very different thing to hook up some cameras and spend an hour with a car and another period editing than a actually owning the car . Nicks best videos were/ are about the cars that he owns .

 

I bought my nicely optioned manual 2018 991.2 T off the showroom floor in Dec 2018, with a hefty discount and a bunch of freebees thrown in (inc a set of winter tires!). The car was unsold new and they wanted it gone by end of year. Crazy to think of that now - those days are long gone and prob won't ever come back.

I agree with Nick Murray's opinion on the 992 T. I am one that prefers driving a slow car fast versus a fast car slow. I believe the 992 T has all the performance I'd want and is the right new 911 for me. The problem for me is the price. A medium optioned 24 T is around $140k now. That's a lot of money (to me) and really takes away from the value proposition of the new T. I understand how Porsche is cashing in on the brand value and moving up market, but it does feel a bit like I'm being taken advantage of. I officially backed out of my T order when they raised the MSRP on the 24s. I'm still kicking around the idea of getting back in though, largely because it seems like this might be the last chance to get a base model manual Carrera (non-hybrid). Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy my 997.2 C2 manual, which most days feels like all the 911 I want!

 

What happened to Your 991 T? Sounds like those cars are keepers now based on value.

 

I sold it at the beginning of the pandemic, when everyone was concerned the market would tank. Sold it for close to what I paid, but looking back that was probably the biggest car mistake I've ever made. It was a great car and I should have kept it.

 

Porsche raised it 10K for 24 so I shaved the 144K build down to 134 https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PR9BLFF2

I can see why someone would have a blast driving the car for a few days . However there would quickly come a point when the novelty erodes and 3, 5, and 7 with a manual mated to a turbo just isn't going to cut it and the T really did have a manual in mind . Theres also the day my wife's Macan GTS beats me and I'd say "need more power" . After all if light, nimble , agile was the premise why not save the money into a 718 GTS or Gt4 ? It will, run right through a T in auto cross and become an NA engine with a manual at a lower price to boot.

 

But don’t fret over ‘having’ to stick with a manual 997.2; one of the best 911’s and apart from the tech a match or even better than a 992 in many ways.

 

It won't hurt it.
It's just sustained driving at redline that is to be avoided.