992 T Base Audio System Upgrade Topic
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992 T Base Audio System Upgrade Topic
Since Bose was not available on the new 992 Carrera T many of us are looking for other options to upgrade the base audio system for a reasonable price. So far there is not much news. I have an appointment next week with the guys from Clanck but they are in the Netherlands. But sharing knowledge is always good. Especially about upgrading the amp or just adding a sub. Can’t wait to see the first results.
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
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06-02-2023, 03:51 PM
Since Bose was not available on the new 992 Carrera T many of us are looking for other options to upgrade the base audio system for a reasonable price. So far there is not much news. I have an appointment next week with the guys from Clanck but they are in the Netherlands. But sharing knowledge is always good. Especially about upgrading the amp or just adding a sub. Can’t wait to see the first results.
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
It's coming in next week and we'll know a lot more come the middle of this month. If all goes as planned, we'll have Stages 1-3 available for pre-order by the first of July!
I'll probably start a thread just for the info on the development process. Stay tuned for that.
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Since Bose was not available on the new 992 Carrera T many of us are looking for other options to upgrade the base audio system for a reasonable price. So far there is not much news. I have an appointment next week with the guys from Clanck but they are in the Netherlands. But sharing knowledge is always good. Especially about upgrading the amp or just adding a sub. Can’t wait to see the first results.
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
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Vernin (06-22-2023)
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Re-submitting the Focal post in this Audio thread in case it proves useful to anyone looking to upgrade their audio system.
I also have tech spec for the components should anyone need them.
Audio Upgrade - Update!!
Focal P-60 Speaker Set for 911 (992) Ltd Edition
Sadly Ive taken the Focal kit back for a refund.
Following numerous calls to car audio companies re installation, I was getting the same response from all.
These speakers are absolutely superb, but with the base Porsche amplifier youre wasting your time and money. Its like trying to run a F1 car with a Minis engine.
So finally I swapped numerous messages with Focal UK and he said that just assumed buyers would upgrade the amp at the same time and he recommended a couple of Focal amps starting at £800.
All this plus installation and suddenly Im looking at £5.5k ($6.5k) in total! I love my music but cant justify that!!
So heres the thing, if youve got that kind of money to spend on upgrading the sound, you MUST go for this set. Focal are known for their high end audio products, (they sell headphones for £30k) so the quality is there and they are amazing value for money. Individually youd pay around £8k for the 7 speakers.
So back to the drawing board for me.
Ill happily go to £1.5k maybe £2k ($2.5k) but thats about my limit!
I also have tech spec for the components should anyone need them.
Audio Upgrade - Update!!
Focal P-60 Speaker Set for 911 (992) Ltd Edition
Sadly Ive taken the Focal kit back for a refund.
Following numerous calls to car audio companies re installation, I was getting the same response from all.
These speakers are absolutely superb, but with the base Porsche amplifier youre wasting your time and money. Its like trying to run a F1 car with a Minis engine.
So finally I swapped numerous messages with Focal UK and he said that just assumed buyers would upgrade the amp at the same time and he recommended a couple of Focal amps starting at £800.
All this plus installation and suddenly Im looking at £5.5k ($6.5k) in total! I love my music but cant justify that!!
So heres the thing, if youve got that kind of money to spend on upgrading the sound, you MUST go for this set. Focal are known for their high end audio products, (they sell headphones for £30k) so the quality is there and they are amazing value for money. Individually youd pay around £8k for the 7 speakers.
So back to the drawing board for me.
Ill happily go to £1.5k maybe £2k ($2.5k) but thats about my limit!
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Vernin (06-22-2023)
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Re-submitting the Focal post in this Audio thread in case it proves useful to anyone looking to upgrade their audio system.
I also have tech spec for the components should anyone need them.
Audio Upgrade - Update!!
Focal P-60 Speaker Set for 911 (992) Ltd Edition
Sadly I’ve taken the Focal kit back for a refund.
Following numerous calls to car audio companies re installation, I was getting the same response from all.
These speakers are absolutely superb, but with the base Porsche amplifier you’re wasting your time and money. It’s like trying to run a F1 car with a Mini’s engine.
So finally I swapped numerous messages with Focal UK and he said that just assumed buyers would upgrade the amp at the same time and he recommended a couple of Focal amps starting at £800.
All this plus installation and suddenly I’m looking at £5.5k ($6.5k) in total! I love my music but can’t justify that!!
So here’s the thing, if you’ve got that kind of money to spend on upgrading the sound, you MUST go for this set. Focal are known for their high end audio products, (they sell headphones for £30k) so the quality is there and they are amazing value for money. Individually you’d pay around £8k for the 7 speakers.
So back to the drawing board for me.
I’ll happily go to £1.5k maybe £2k ($2.5k) but that’s about my limit!
I also have tech spec for the components should anyone need them.
Audio Upgrade - Update!!
Focal P-60 Speaker Set for 911 (992) Ltd Edition
Sadly I’ve taken the Focal kit back for a refund.
Following numerous calls to car audio companies re installation, I was getting the same response from all.
These speakers are absolutely superb, but with the base Porsche amplifier you’re wasting your time and money. It’s like trying to run a F1 car with a Mini’s engine.
So finally I swapped numerous messages with Focal UK and he said that just assumed buyers would upgrade the amp at the same time and he recommended a couple of Focal amps starting at £800.
All this plus installation and suddenly I’m looking at £5.5k ($6.5k) in total! I love my music but can’t justify that!!
So here’s the thing, if you’ve got that kind of money to spend on upgrading the sound, you MUST go for this set. Focal are known for their high end audio products, (they sell headphones for £30k) so the quality is there and they are amazing value for money. Individually you’d pay around £8k for the 7 speakers.
So back to the drawing board for me.
I’ll happily go to £1.5k maybe £2k ($2.5k) but that’s about my limit!
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No - didn’t get as far as installing them.
I was in doubt about buying them because I’d heard diff stories about the base Porsche amplifier and wasn’t sure if the speakers alone would make a difference.
Then I spotted a dealer with a one day 10% discount so bought them thinking I could get refund if….
Then I swapped emails with Focal HQ, and that’s when I discovered it was pointless buying these fabulous speakers without upgrading the amp.
Adding the cost of the amp and installation and suddenly I’m up to the price of a Burmester and a Bose COMBINED!!
Thats way too much.
So got the refund.
The dealer has quoted me for cheaper Focal speakers and amp, but I’m still thinking on it.
I’m open to ideas
I was in doubt about buying them because I’d heard diff stories about the base Porsche amplifier and wasn’t sure if the speakers alone would make a difference.
Then I spotted a dealer with a one day 10% discount so bought them thinking I could get refund if….
Then I swapped emails with Focal HQ, and that’s when I discovered it was pointless buying these fabulous speakers without upgrading the amp.
Adding the cost of the amp and installation and suddenly I’m up to the price of a Burmester and a Bose COMBINED!!
Thats way too much.
So got the refund.
The dealer has quoted me for cheaper Focal speakers and amp, but I’m still thinking on it.
I’m open to ideas
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Vernin (06-22-2023)
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Since Bose was not available on the new 992 Carrera T many of us are looking for other options to upgrade the base audio system for a reasonable price. So far there is not much news. I have an appointment next week with the guys from Clanck but they are in the Netherlands. But sharing knowledge is always good. Especially about upgrading the amp or just adding a sub. Can’t wait to see the first results.
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
Also @12v Nick was looking for somebody on the West coast? https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1344...io-system.html
It's coming in next week and we'll know a lot more come the middle of this month. If all goes as planned, we'll have Stages 1-3 available for pre-order by the first of July!
I'll probably start a thread just for the info on the development process. Stay tuned for that.
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Vernin (06-22-2023)
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@12v Nick I know you are still working on the package and I'm not asking for pricing. But do you expect it to more/less simple and more/less expensive than upgrading the Bose system?
It would be good to have base upgrade to Bose level, with $1000 target as that is the price of Bose on 911
Then for the enthusiasts audiophile, high-end version.
@12v Nick is that something you would consider?
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For those who have yet to lock your orders and/or deciding on Stereo options, I have Bose in my Taycan and Burmester in my Carrera T, and the difference in sound is quite marked. While previously I thought Bose was fine, compared to Burmester it lacks depth and is very light in regards to full Bass. With Bose I have to use Surround Sound, otherwise too light and tinny, with Burmester I use Pure, it really is a marked upgrade and if you are going to the trouble of aftermarket I would try and get as close to that sound as possible, it will be worth the few thousand extra you throw in that car. As for the car being too noisy to enjoy the music I find this not to be the case. I drive in Sports mode with the PSE engaged, I get to hear great music and the sound of the engine at the same time. Upgrade is worth it.
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Good point @VarTheVar
It would be good to have base upgrade to Bose level, with $1000 target as that is the price of Bose on 911
Then for the enthusiasts audiophile, high-end version.
@12v Nick is that something you would consider?
It would be good to have base upgrade to Bose level, with $1000 target as that is the price of Bose on 911
Then for the enthusiasts audiophile, high-end version.
@12v Nick is that something you would consider?
That's actually not what I was suggesting. In fact, I don't think it's worth upgrading from base to Bose if you're tearing into the interior and/or paying for labor, which most people will be doing
My question was mostly about the level of componentry that's needed because Bose has a different style of communicating with the speakers from what I understand. I was just hoping that it would be naturally, maybe less expensive, maybe it has less speakers. Maybe the amplifier is more simple. I'm not sure how this all works. I'm talking about the stage 3 version BTW.
Last edited by VarTheVar; 06-05-2023 at 11:31 AM.
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Vernin (06-22-2023)
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For those who have yet to lock your orders and/or deciding on Stereo options, I have Bose in my Taycan and Burmester in my Carrera T, and the difference in sound is quite marked. While previously I thought Bose was fine, compared to Burmester it lacks depth and is very light in regards to full Bass. With Bose I have to use Surround Sound, otherwise too light and tinny, with Burmester I use Pure, it really is a marked upgrade and if you are going to the trouble of aftermarket I would try and get as close to that sound as possible, it will be worth the few thousand extra you throw in that car. As for the car being too noisy to enjoy the music I find this not to be the case. I drive in Sports mode with the PSE engaged, I get to hear great music and the sound of the engine at the same time. Upgrade is worth it.
I really wish I’d specced the Burmester!!
Had I been aware of how poor the base system was and that the Bose would be deleted from my order I would 100% have dug a bit deeper and got the Burmester.
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