992 T vs 992 S - How different are they in performance?
04-11-2023, 11:48 PM
#16
Speaking of tuning, tune on the S is gonna be the same HP as a GTS with a tune. The base or T with smaller turbos can’t match that with the tune. For argument sake. The S is considered a higher tier model if that matters. If you have a chance for either one you are a lucky man
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04-11-2023, 11:58 PM
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This thread is starting to reek of spliced extension cords.
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04-12-2023, 12:02 AM
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04-12-2023, 12:40 AM
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obviously S has a higher horse power engine... However, T has the same suspension as S and does not have the suspension of a base.. I don't believe many people are noting this and everyone just looking at HP comparison and that you can get a stick now with the base engine... if higher horse power is not your thing (like it is not for me) then T is a better choice for you since you are getting an S suspension...
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04-12-2023, 01:43 AM
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A couple of things.
You are posting the PDK time. OP seems to want the manual based on his numbers.
OP is using Porsche’s published times. We know they can go faster, but presumably if the S is faster than it’s posted time, the T will be as well. So likely the .3 second gap between 0-60 times will remain.
As for the choice, there shouldn’t be a 20k gap if you are specing it the same. It should be around 8-10k I believe. So while an S isn’t worth 20k more if you’re just talking HP and brakes, you seem to be putting other things on it to add to the price. And those do have value. Sorry if that doesn’t actually answer the question,
You are posting the PDK time. OP seems to want the manual based on his numbers.
OP is using Porsche’s published times. We know they can go faster, but presumably if the S is faster than it’s posted time, the T will be as well. So likely the .3 second gap between 0-60 times will remain.
As for the choice, there shouldn’t be a 20k gap if you are specing it the same. It should be around 8-10k I believe. So while an S isn’t worth 20k more if you’re just talking HP and brakes, you seem to be putting other things on it to add to the price. And those do have value. Sorry if that doesn’t actually answer the question,
obviously S has a higher horse power engine... However, T has the same suspension as S and does not have the suspension of a base.. I don't believe many people are noting this and everyone just looking at HP comparison and that you can get a stick now with the base engine... if higher horse power is not your thing (like it is not for me) then T is a better choice for you since you are getting an S suspension...
This obviously comes down to personal preference. I had a 991.2 T and now have a 992s, both manuals. I have not driven a 992T but the 991 was a great car. I would expect both 992’s are not available for a test drive. I would consider how you planning to use the car, and how long you plan to keep it. For me, if I specked a T, less is more and I would add LWB’s. I would load up an S.
The 992’s are extremely refined and not as raw as a 991, especially the earlier ones. Good luck with your choice and have fun with the process.
The 992’s are extremely refined and not as raw as a 991, especially the earlier ones. Good luck with your choice and have fun with the process.
Appeal of T to me was getting all the S sport package goodies i want with out the stuff I really dont need. Manual, lsd, ptv, ras, pse, spasm... As others said can always upgrade power and brakes later if you feel it is lacking. Bonus for me is standard sport tex interior, and cool factor of rear seat delete, removed sound deadening, and lightweight glass. In the end I'm not that concerned about the overall weight saving since I am coming from a 4000lbs+ car. Just feels like a special 911. Feels like Porsche made the T especially for me LOL.
Very true. He was comparing the T vs S and I simply stated if he felt the T was short of power he could get S power out of it by a simple tune. Not that it would be a Turbo S or even a GTS, just the power of an S. But some people here seem to want to imply it's about financial ability. We usually know what that means about them...
04-12-2023, 01:58 AM
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04-12-2023, 02:11 AM
#22
Only issue is all the premium goodies like those bucket seats and PCCBs are not available anymore. Older gen (991.2) were able to be specced with both. Huge killer for the T in my eyes and shame on Porsche for advertising the T with the buckets when they knew they were not going to meet the demand
04-12-2023, 02:19 AM
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Only issue is all the premium goodies like those bucket seats and PCCBs are not available anymore. Older gen (991.2) were able to be specced with both. Huge killer for the T in my eyes and shame on Porsche for advertising the T with the buckets when they knew they were not going to meet the demand
And almost no one specced PCCBs on the 991 T.
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04-12-2023, 02:48 AM
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I'm sure others have their different reasons, but I could afford a TTS. I still went for an S because I don't want AWD, I value the extended range fuel tank, and where I live the TTS is too much of a car in terms of power, and I don't track.
I still went for the M-Engineering Stage 1 tune which greatly improved the torque curve, makes driving in light traffic much more enjoyable, but I can't say that I am qualified to handle 100% of what the S can offer.
So no, it's not always about what people can afford, but about what they're looking for.
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04-12-2023, 07:57 AM
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Spend some time on the Porsche configurator with both the T and S. Are there any “must have” options, color, interior, etc. you want that are available on the S that are not available on the T ? Options available on a T are more limited than an S. Not an issue for me as I would order a stripper if buying a T. But, might be an issue for others.
04-12-2023, 08:12 AM
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look at the Standard Equipment for the T and the S on the Porsche Website.... the Transmission and Chassis of T is identical to an S... Base is different... I also some posts folks saying why are they even offering PDK with the T... just get the base.... this also answers that question... basically a PDK T is an S with a less HP engine... so still good....
04-12-2023, 08:49 AM
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look at the Standard Equipment for the T and the S on the Porsche Website.... the Transmission and Chassis of T is identical to an S... Base is different... I also some posts folks saying why are they even offering PDK with the T... just get the base.... this also answers that question... basically a PDK T is an S with a less HP engine... so still good....
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04-12-2023, 10:29 AM
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The whole "can't afford a GTS" type commentary is ridiculous.
There seem to be 2 types on here... Guys buying their dream car they have worked their life to obtain, so who is anyone to say they can't afford something? It is amazing thing to be able to buy ANY 911, even used ones.
Or there are guys who have multiple P-cars and or multiple other cars and are making refined spec selections and can clearly afford whatever they want.
I for one own multiple P cars and other cars and can afford whatever I want. But I think the Turbo and GTS trims are frankly ugly so ordered a highly speccd S. Would I have preferred a GT3T? Yes. Can I afford a GT3T? Yes. Can I get an allocation? No. Do I want a GT3? Nope, wouldn't be caught dead with a wing.
Buy what you want or what you can afford. And drive the hell out of it and enjoy every moment. Ignore the pea brained on here.
There seem to be 2 types on here... Guys buying their dream car they have worked their life to obtain, so who is anyone to say they can't afford something? It is amazing thing to be able to buy ANY 911, even used ones.
Or there are guys who have multiple P-cars and or multiple other cars and are making refined spec selections and can clearly afford whatever they want.
I for one own multiple P cars and other cars and can afford whatever I want. But I think the Turbo and GTS trims are frankly ugly so ordered a highly speccd S. Would I have preferred a GT3T? Yes. Can I afford a GT3T? Yes. Can I get an allocation? No. Do I want a GT3? Nope, wouldn't be caught dead with a wing.
Buy what you want or what you can afford. And drive the hell out of it and enjoy every moment. Ignore the pea brained on here.
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04-12-2023, 10:47 AM
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The whole "can't afford a GTS" type commentary is ridiculous.
There seem to be 2 types on here... Guys buying their dream car they have worked their life to obtain, so who is anyone to say they can't afford something? It is amazing thing to be able to buy ANY 911, even used ones.
Or there are guys who have multiple P-cars and or multiple other cars and are making refined spec selections and can clearly afford whatever they want.
I for one own multiple P cars and other cars and can afford whatever I want. But I think the Turbo and GTS trims are frankly ugly so ordered a highly speccd S. Would I have preferred a GT3T? Yes. Can I afford a GT3T? Yes. Can I get an allocation? No. Do I want a GT3? Nope, wouldn't be caught dead with a wing.
Buy what you want or what you can afford. And drive the hell out of it and enjoy every moment. Ignore the pea brained on here.
There seem to be 2 types on here... Guys buying their dream car they have worked their life to obtain, so who is anyone to say they can't afford something? It is amazing thing to be able to buy ANY 911, even used ones.
Or there are guys who have multiple P-cars and or multiple other cars and are making refined spec selections and can clearly afford whatever they want.
I for one own multiple P cars and other cars and can afford whatever I want. But I think the Turbo and GTS trims are frankly ugly so ordered a highly speccd S. Would I have preferred a GT3T? Yes. Can I afford a GT3T? Yes. Can I get an allocation? No. Do I want a GT3? Nope, wouldn't be caught dead with a wing.
Buy what you want or what you can afford. And drive the hell out of it and enjoy every moment. Ignore the pea brained on here.
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04-12-2023, 11:25 AM
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