Bhaha Porsche

Alright - we all know the GTS doesn't really compare to the GT products but many of us can't get a GT3 and a 992 GTS is the next best option.

Debate for this thread - what is the best way to spec a GTS for performance on track! Specifically, would you take the lightweight package or the aerokit as those two conflicts (can't spec both).

Options:
1. Lightweight package: Bucket seats, RAS, Lithium battery, lightweight Glass, reduced sound deadening, GTS aerodynamics, etc.)
2. Lightweight glass + RAS + aerokit

I took out the PCCB and PDCC as those are not available. PCCB would be no-brainer, PDCC is another debate.

Quikag

I just did RAS, PDDC, and steel brakes. Going to get a good alignment, some really sticky tires and go 991 GT3 hunting.

I just can't do the aerokit as it looks like a dumbed down wannabe GT3. IMHO, of course, some may very much diagree with me. So, I'd do lightweight package between the two options.

zachr

Is there any data on the actual downforce produced by an aerokit car vs non-AK? My guess is it's not that impactful, but it's hard to say for sure.

It seems like Porsche is playing some games with the lightweight package's weight savings claims. The package 1) eliminates rear seats, 2) includes lightweight glass, 3) includes RAS + LiFePO4 battery, 4) reduces sound insulation, 5) switches to bucket seats. And they say it saves "up to 25kg". link

Porsche says the LiFePO4 battery weighs nearly a third as much as the standard AGM battery, at 12.75kg. That means the standard AGM battery weighs ~38kg. That's literally all of the 25kg of weight savings right there, so either they're being very conservative with their weight savings claims or you can get 85+% of the lightweight package's weight savings by just optioning RAS.

cwbrown

My Spec is the best.....ha ha

* LWB
* Aero
* MT (debatable as PDK would be faster on track)
MT is lighter more engaging.....for me.
* no RAS
* no Axcel Lift
* no "extras"
* I may add Lightweight battery at a later date.

My GTS was speced/built to keep it as light as possible within my budget, so no PCCB of carbon roof.
Only compromise to the above may be the Aero kit as the rear wing may add weight.
However, removing the wing motor/wiring may cancel this out.

drcollie

The best track car is one you can ball up and not be upset about when you do. Plus, a real track car is set up for that duty and has the right safety equipment in it, the suspension settings, the correct seat and harness, and sticky tires. The track car is miserable on the street, too. You are far better off to buy an old BMW or Miata as a track car and set your new GTS up for the street. But this is a hard sell, I get that. It just comes from experience and I think you will find most guys here that have 20 or more years of track driving will agree. But in any case, let's say you don't want to do that.

The Aero option will slow the car down due to drag. On most tracks it will cut 5 to 8 mph off the top end if you can get up to 130 mph or more on the main straight. And it is not going to help you in the corners because you need R Compound tires or Slicks to take advantage of the downforce PLUS a very firm suspension modification with camber mods that will not be suitable for the street as well as track pads for the brakes.

Other that that, keep the weight out of the car. That means the lightest seats, no upgraded stereo, carbon roof, Li-Po battery, lightweight glass, and PCCB's really get the unsprung weight out of the package - but they are unavailable right now? Carbon Fiber wheels are another huge weight saver that is equal to about 25 hp if you can source thouse Porsche Exclusive.

Tay101

I am with Quikag on the Aerokit. Its comes across as a poser GT3 to me. That being said, the only reason I would option the Aerokit is if I planned on adding the duck tail from the Sport Classic. I figure it would make the swap easier.

I would do the Lightweight Package with buckets and add the carbon fiber roof.

Skip the PDCC. It is meant for comfort and not so much for performance. GT cars do not come with PDCC. And since this is a "Track Spec", I feel you would at least add the KW HAS kit or an actual coilover kit. In that case, you would want to add adjustable swaybar end links to corner balance the car. Something you cannot do if you have PDCC.

drcollie

[QUOTE=Tay101;18696909]I am with Quikag on the Aerokit. Its comes across as a poser GT3 to me. That being said, the only reason I would option the Aerokit is if I planned on adding the duck tail from the Sport Classic. I figure it would make the swap easier.QUOTE]

Porsche will not allow you buy the Sport Classic Ducktail, unless you can provide proof of ownership of an existing Sport Classic AND a photographic evidence of why you need a new one (Collision photos, etc). They are very strict on that kind of thing and keep records of the Limited Edition vehicles, so you would be going with a fiberglass aftermarket one.

cwbrown

Adding the duck tail just makes it look like a wanna-be Sport Classic.
And there is nothing wrong with that, just as there is nothing wrong with the GT3 wanna-be look with the Aero Kit.

CodyBigdog

As Mark Twain might put it : “It’s not the size of the dog in a fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog”

Loosely translated: Learn to be a better (more competent) driver. I’ve seen a lot of “lesser cars”, driven by drivers that knew how to get the most out of their car, vanquish cars with far more impressive specs.

shrimp money

I’m tired these fake GT3s

jhenson29

the ones without aero kits are fake GT3 tourings.

22992

[QUOTE=drcollie;18696922]You would skip the poser option but order it to facilitate and even more elaborate pose? Interesting.

991.1 Guy

If you want a track car get a GT3 either 991 or 992.. Otherwise it doesn't really matter. You are just out to have fun in a street car.

Tay101

Lol... You got me there.

Regardless, I think the Lightweight Package would still be the way to go for a track spec build.

Tay101

[QUOTE=22992;18697123]Or any kind of duck tail. I am not saying I would do it. Especially since its quite an expensive option just to remove it. I have just seen a few threads on here with people wanting to do a fixed wing/tail and it just seems like it would be easier if your car had the Aerokit to begin with. Just throwing that out there.