COTB

Being offered a 992 GTS which is really nicely optioned. It was being configured as a daily driver for bad roads, hence the original owner speced with the raised 10MM PASM. I've read a few comments on here saying this is a sin given that it is a GTS model, but I haven't heard from anybody who actually has one or has compared it with the standard GTS suspension setup. Would really appreciate any advice/guidance. I don't plan on tracking the car at all, will use it as a daily driver, but certainly don't want it to feel soft in a corner! It's a rear wheel drive, PDK, with PDCC, real axel steering. Thanks in advance.

slc4s

(I didn't even know you could de-option SPASM on a GTS)

here's the real answer: the car will still drive awesome. to the point that its capabilities will far exceed any of our abilities to push it on regular roads. It just won't look as cool. and that for me would be a deal breaker (unless you are good with aftermarket drops). The subtle 10mm factory drop has a fairly profound aesthetic effect for my eye. But don't kid yourself about driving limitations, that car would still be incredible.

CanAutM3

The S-PASM, the bigger brakes and the center lock wheels from the turbo, plus the power bump and the few interior and exterior cosmetic touches are fundamentally what make a GTS a GTS. Opting out of these does remove GTSness from the car, but by no means makes it a less enjoyable 911. To each their own.

aggie57

It won't feel soft in a corner. As a daily driver you'll probably appreciate it being a little more compliant.

flyfisher

I just don't see how the eye can discern a 10 mm difference. It's less than half an inch. If you like the car, get it.

MrOhnoez

Honestly, I'd rather have the raised 10mm for the bit better ride quality and day to day drive.
Biggest complaint I've heard from people with a GTS is how much stiffer the car feels compared to the Carrera S.
Really caught some customers off guard that wanted it as a spicier daily 911.

subwoofer

For a street car, sport PASM will deliver a harsh jittery ride unless the roads are super smooth. You will not miss it. You will also not miss PDCC or RAS on a street car IMO. But you have them. More things to break. Centerlocks are also a pain but nothing you can do about it,

991.1 Guy

You can always lower it.

3rdpedal

I have a C2S with Sport PASM and RAS (no PDCC) and an area with not great roads, and no ride issues. The idea that Sport PASM is significantly or really noticeably harsher than regular PASM gets blown out of proportion here too often. Sport PASM in Normal (not Sport) mode is a very nice ride. Just don't put your tires at a factory 48 PSI setting, as that will kill just about any ride.

jplaro

This reduces the value of the car. You need to pay to GET the sport suspension on a S.

In this case, you can remove it for free on the GTS, but its part of the additional value in increase in MSRP from S to GTS.

If you unselect this option, you might as well get a S.

You could try to get a small discount off the car equivalent to the cost of adding the option on the S given that devalues the GTS but your dealer will likely push back.

AlterZgo

I think the S-PASM is one of the least important options on a GTS. Regular PASM rides better and also handles better than S-PASM b/c it's able to keep the tires on the ground better on most road conditions. S-PASM would probably handle better on a smooth road course. The only thing PASM sucks at is looks. But, then again, S-PASM doesn't look lowered at all to my eyes either. In the past S-PASM lowered the car 20 mm. That was noticeable. 10mm is super subtle to the point of being unnoticeable to most people.

If I were in OP's shoes, I'd definitely get this PASM equipped GTS. Of course, I'd also lower it immediately by at least 30mm b/c I always favor looks over comfort and handling in every car I've ever owned.

CanAutM3

It's not that much about the visual aspect, it's mostly about the handling performance benefit that comes from the reduced ride height and increased spring rates.

F8Driver

I chose the raised option for several reasons (I ordered a C2S, but the allocation was a GTS). The raised option (essentially a C2S) is excellent. I base this on my experience with the C2S at Barber race track. Yes, the lowered, Turbo helper spring, standard GTS suspension is superior for ultimate handling if you track or drive on superior roads. I do not. Local roads suck, ride was more important than the handling I could not possibly experience. I wanted a Gran Turismo, not a semi-track car (for that, get a GT3). The extra power and torque vs C2S is not particularly noticeable, but the brakes are very cool. (OBTW, the Targa GTS s is not lowered with helper springs.) If you drive a full-zoot GTS on a track vs the tamer version, you might notice the difference ... might. Otherwise you will not. Perhaps on resale, your "sin" will not be forgiven, but the truth is all 992's are exceptional and true "ultimate driving machines." The variation from C2S vs GTS is slight, even with all the goo-gahs. If you like the car, get it.

BlitzedTT

Has anyone done any real world measurements? - 10MM "on paper" does not seem to translate into how it appears in real life [insert "That's what she said"]

While a SPASM car may not look super lowered, at least the wheel gap is pretty consistent around the entire arch... whereas a PASM car looks like a 4x4.
I generally do swap out springs - but I'm so on the fence with SPASM since it's almost good enough visually, and there is a lot of cost/messing with interior panels that goes into lowering to get a marginally (IMO) better visual drop - plus the alignment, plus the stock wheels appearing more inset, plus a little hit to roughness/comfort, plus more scraping...

I've owned lowered cars for 20+ years so I get it... maybe it just means I'm old.... I'll have to park my car next to a properly setup H&R example and go for a ride to make up my mind definitively.

BUT if I owned a PASM car, like the OP may end up with, I think the first thing I'd do is lower it

ipse dixit

I would pass on this car.